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SAGA45 03:01 PM 03-01-2021
This was from Veach's zoom presser this morning in response to Sam Mellinger following up on a previous response by Veach where he said Mahomes, Schwartz and Fisher were all expected back by August.

When asked, Veach referred again to his notes from Rick (Burkholder) that stated Fisher is projected as a "mid-August return".

Veach then went on to clarify that there's obviously other variables that could impact that but as far as the information he had in front of him from Rick and the medical staff, mid-August is the projection.

LINK (question is asked at 20:25 mark): https://fb.watch/3Z3FNr0fc7/

Now, Fisher will probably be put on PUP list to start the season but still, this is phenomenal news considering many were expecting Fisher to miss the 2021-22 season entirely.
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Comanche 06:43 AM 03-03-2021
Originally Posted by SAGA45:
This was from Veach's zoom presser this morning in response to Sam Mellinger following up on a previous response by Veach where he said Mahomes, Schwartz and Fisher were all expected back by August.

When asked, Veach referred again to his notes from Rick (Burkholder) that stated Fisher is projected as a "mid-August return".

Veach then went on to clarify that there's obviously other variables that could impact that but as far as the information he had in front of him from Rick and the medical staff, mid-August is the projection.

LINK (question is asked at 20:25 mark): https://fb.watch/3Z3FNr0fc7/

Now, Fisher will probably be put on PUP list to start the season but still, this is phenomenal news considering many were expecting Fisher to miss the 2021-22 season entirely.
Day to day. . .:-)
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Dunerdr 06:57 AM 03-03-2021
Originally Posted by Comanche:
Day to day. . .:-)
Everyone uses the day to day thing but that turned out to be Berry not feeling it, not the medicals or the staff.
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rabblerouser 02:32 PM 03-03-2021
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
Everyone uses the day to day thing but that turned out to be Berry not feeling it, not the medicals or the staff.
Yeah, they left it up to Berry...who literally played the exact minimal number of snaps to meet some stupid roster incentive, and then got repeatedly face-raped by Gronk in the AFCCG.

****ing hobo-spirit. Ought to send John Dorsey a "thank you" card every Christmas. Or Dorsey and Hobo should send The Clarks a pic of the two of them (Dorsey and Berry) using a flaming hundred dollar bill lighting a cigar in one hand while flipping the camera the bird with the other...
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Toad 07:29 AM 03-04-2021
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
IF The team feels confident that both Fisher and Schwartz will return to form then the OT situation is in good shape with Niang and possibly Wanegho in the wings. I'd still like a veteran swing guy.

Interior line gets an upgrade with LDT over Wylie. Alegretti is serviceable, he's not a guy you have to help anyway. Osemele is a cheap vet option to back-up/push for a spot depending on his health. Rankin is a G. Durant has potential at G.

We need a Center. Reiter isn't good enough. Maybe a vet on a prove it deal like Britt? Or a draftee like Humphrey/Myers/Meinerz. I'd prefer to do both.

That would appear to upgrade not only the starting 5 over the last half of the season, but also improve the quality of depth.
That’s pretty much where I am at this point. Get a quality OC and a quality swing OT as contingency for EF and MS.
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KChiefs1 01:46 PM 03-06-2021
Originally Posted by Comanche:
Day to day. . .:-)

Fish will be day to day until December.
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FloridaMan88 02:52 PM 03-06-2021
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
IF The team feels confident that both Fisher and Schwartz will return to form then the OT situation is in good shape
The Chiefs put too much faith in Schwartz eventually returning from his injury last season and it derailed their season in the Super Bowl.

Putting too much faith in Eric Berry being able to return and "fix" the shitty 2018 defense was also a failure.

It's fine for the Chiefs to be optimistic about Schwartz/Fisher being ready for the start of the 2021 season, but they better have a more solid Plan B than Remmers at LT and Wylie at RT.
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RunKC 02:56 PM 03-06-2021
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
The Chiefs put too much faith in Schwartz eventually returning from his injury last season and it derailed their season in the Super Bowl.

Putting too much faith in Eric Berry being able to return and "fix" the shitty 2018 defense was also a failure.

It's fine for the Chiefs to be optimistic about Schwartz/Fisher being ready for the start of the 2021 season, but they better have a more solid Plan B than Remmers at LT and Wylie at RT.
Plan B is Lucas Niang and that’s a pretty excellent 3rd tackle compared to the rest of the league
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staylor26 03:07 PM 03-06-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Plan B is Lucas Niang and that’s a pretty excellent 3rd tackle compared to the rest of the league
And Remmers was just fine as a plan C at RT. The problem was we lost both T’s. Any team that loses both starting T’s is going to be fucked.

Veach should’ve had a plan D though!
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FloridaMan88 03:14 PM 03-06-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Plan B is Lucas Niang and that’s a pretty excellent 3rd tackle compared to the rest of the league
Niang hasn't played in a football game or participated in an organized football practice since October 2019... but we are now going to project him to be a reliable Plan B option at LT if Fisher isn't ready.

Interesting.
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RunKC 03:30 PM 03-06-2021
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Niang hasn't played in a football game or participated in an organized football practice since October 2019... but we are now going to project him to be a reliable Plan B option at LT if Fisher isn't ready.

Interesting.
Your post mentioned Schwartz for the most part, but yes our 3rd tackle is probably Lucas Niang, who like LDT and Damien Williams will be going through a full physical when they get back in 2 weeks to see where they are.

Also who cares if Niang hasn’t played since Fall 2019? Are you insinuating he now doesn’t know how to play football anymore? The guy was on video doing off-season training this year. If he checks out medically then what is the problem?

And yes we might get a low cost vet to help cover Fisher. Idk what you people are wanting here unless you draft a tackle early.

Quality left tackles are pretty damn hard to find and good ones cost a shit load of money that we don’t have. So unless we draft someone that’s pretty much what you have.

Look around the league and tell me what team has a 3rd tackle that is even average.
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Hammock Parties 03:35 PM 03-06-2021
I really can't believe we're counting on a pair of brokedicks in the most pivotal season we're going to have for awhile.

This might be the last season Kelce and Tyreek are at their absolute peak physical potential.

The future of this offense gets dicey if either one of them falls off.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03:37 PM 03-06-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
I really can't believe we're counting on a pair of brokedicks in the most pivotal season we're going to have for awhile.

This might be the last season Kelce and Tyreek are at their absolute peak physical potential.

The future of this offense gets dicey if either one of them falls off.
Kelce is like Brady, they get better with age
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DaneMcCloud 04:13 PM 03-06-2021
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
I really can't believe we're counting on a pair of brokedicks in the most pivotal season we're going to have for awhile.

This might be the last season Kelce and Tyreek are at their absolute peak physical potential.
Emmanuel Sanders had nearly 1,000 yards receiving last year despite being 33 years old.

He's not even half the physical specimen as Ty Hill.

Hill's prime is just beginning. He'll be a guy that plays at a high level until his mid-30's because even if he loses a step, he's still faster 99% of the CB's and Safeties trying to cover him.
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htismaqe 05:19 PM 03-06-2021
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Niang hasn't played in a football game or participated in an organized football practice since October 2019... but we are now going to project him to be a reliable Plan B option at LT if Fisher isn't ready.

Interesting.
What do you want them to do? Sign a high priced free agent?

Don't say anything about the draft because none of those guys have played a down in the NFL, just like Niang.
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htismaqe 05:20 PM 03-06-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Your post mentioned Schwartz for the most part, but yes our 3rd tackle is probably Lucas Niang, who like LDT and Damien Williams will be going through a full physical when they get back in 2 weeks to see where they are.

Also who cares if Niang hasn’t played since Fall 2019? Are you insinuating he now doesn’t know how to play football anymore? The guy was on video doing off-season training this year. If he checks out medically then what is the problem?

And yes we might get a low cost vet to help cover Fisher. Idk what you people are wanting here unless you draft a tackle early.

Quality left tackles are pretty damn hard to find and good ones cost a shit load of money that we don’t have. So unless we draft someone that’s pretty much what you have.

Look around the league and tell me what team has a 3rd tackle that is even average.
Drafting a tackle early doesn't really solve anything in 2021. Drafting a tackle would be a 2022 move, if anything.
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