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chiefforlife 09:13 PM 03-11-2019
Tyrann Mathieu’s arrival likely means Eric Berry’s exit
Posted by Mike Florio on March 11, 2019, 11:09 PM EDT
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The Chiefs will be paying $14 million per year over three years to safety Tyrann Mathieu. They also are paying $13 million per year to safety Eric Berry. For now.

The arrival of Mathieu likely means that Berry will be gone, a development that wouldn’t surprise many due to the injuries that have plagued Berry over the past two years. Berry has played in only three games since rupturing an Achilles tendon in Week One of the 2017 season.

Already owed $2.95 million in guaranteed money for 2019, another $7.25 million of Berry’s base salary becomes fully guaranteed on March 15. Which means that, if the Chiefs will be pulling the plug on Berry’s deal, they need to do it sooner than later.

Cutting Berry without a post-June 1 designation would trigger a $14.95 million cap charge for 2019. Of that amount $8 million could be pushed to 2020 by using the post-June 1 designation.

Keeping Berry would result in a cap charge of $16.5 million, and a cash expenditure of $12.5 million. Which makes it very difficult to justify keeping him on the roster, especially with so much invested in Mathieu.
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htismaqe 08:14 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
But they can cut him before June 1st and designate him a post-June 1st release.
Of course they can. They can do that with up to 2 players.

It's unclear how it works if he retires though. It's possible if he retires prior to June 1, the pre-June 1st protocol applies and the Chiefs can't do anything about it.
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Fansy the Famous Bard 08:19 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Of course they can. They can do that with up to 2 players.

It's unclear how it works if he retires though. It's possible if he retires prior to June 1, the pre-June 1st protocol applies and the Chiefs can't do anything about it.
Would they really want to, though? And hamstring ourselves next year?
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The Franchise 08:20 AM 03-12-2019
Just cut him this year and take the dead cap hit now.
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htismaqe 08:22 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard:
Would they really want to, though? And hamstring ourselves next year?
It's really not that bad.

https://overthecap.com/player/eric-berry/504/
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Frazod 08:22 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Just cut him this year and take the dead cap hit now.
THIS THIS THIS

I want an end to all this bullshit.
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loochy 08:27 AM 03-12-2019

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GloryDayz 08:28 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Just cut him this year and take the dead cap hit now.
This is the only answer to curing the cancer that is EB29...
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Red Dawg 08:29 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by TEX:
Yes. But I believe how it works is they can cut him prior to June 1, and designate him a June 1 cut. Then after June 1 they realize the $6.95M savings on the books. Is this correct?
I over cap says we save 9. 6.95 is dead money.
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htismaqe 08:31 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
I over cap says we save 9. 6.95 is dead money.
Yep.

Pre-June 1 - save 1.5M, 15M in 2019 dead money

Post-June 1 - save 9.95M, 6.95 in 2019 dead money
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htismaqe 08:32 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Just cut him this year and take the dead cap hit now.
No, it's definitely better to designate him June 1.
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GloryDayz 08:32 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by loochy:
Worst contract in history IMO. Proof that you deal with players without emotion, no matter how much people have come to love them.

Lord knows they're only in it for themselves, so Chiefs management needs to have learned from this very hard lesson, and make sure they understand the best way to deal with these employees.
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loochy 08:33 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
No, it's definitely better to designate him June 1.
Yeah, definitely. Play with the little cap thing I embedded.
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htismaqe 08:34 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Worst contract in history IMO. Proof that you deal with players without emotion, no matter how much people have come to love them.

Lord knows they're only in it for themselves, so Chiefs management needs to have learned from this very hard lesson, and make sure they understand the best way to deal with these employees.
If you look at recent deals like Watkins and Mathieu, they've definitely got it figured out.

Mathieu's deal on the surface looks huge but from what I've read, it's almost all base salary so it's actually really cheap for the Chiefs.
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O.city 08:35 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
If you look at recent deals like Watkins and Mathieu, they've definitely got it figured out.

Mathieu's deal on the surface looks huge but from what I've read, it's almost all base salary so it's actually really cheap for the Chiefs.
He's getting 14 mil a year. That's a pretty huge deal IMO.
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htismaqe 08:39 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by O.city:
He's getting 14 mil a year. That's a pretty huge deal IMO.
He's going to probably count about $7M against the 2019 cap and I've seen a couple of people say it might only be 1/3 guaranteed money.
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