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chiefforlife 09:13 PM 03-11-2019
Tyrann Mathieu’s arrival likely means Eric Berry’s exit
Posted by Mike Florio on March 11, 2019, 11:09 PM EDT
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The Chiefs will be paying $14 million per year over three years to safety Tyrann Mathieu. They also are paying $13 million per year to safety Eric Berry. For now.

The arrival of Mathieu likely means that Berry will be gone, a development that wouldn’t surprise many due to the injuries that have plagued Berry over the past two years. Berry has played in only three games since rupturing an Achilles tendon in Week One of the 2017 season.

Already owed $2.95 million in guaranteed money for 2019, another $7.25 million of Berry’s base salary becomes fully guaranteed on March 15. Which means that, if the Chiefs will be pulling the plug on Berry’s deal, they need to do it sooner than later.

Cutting Berry without a post-June 1 designation would trigger a $14.95 million cap charge for 2019. Of that amount $8 million could be pushed to 2020 by using the post-June 1 designation.

Keeping Berry would result in a cap charge of $16.5 million, and a cash expenditure of $12.5 million. Which makes it very difficult to justify keeping him on the roster, especially with so much invested in Mathieu.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 11:17 PM 03-11-2019
Originally Posted by BossChief:
I’ll be surprised if they cut Berry.
After they just showed Houston the door for no compensation?

Originally Posted by JakeF:
I wonder if Houston and Berry will go to the same team?
Serious question; what, in your mind, would Eric Berry actually do with another team?

Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Please give him the "29" jersey.
God I love the way you think. :-)
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Easy 6 11:20 PM 03-11-2019
If recent developments are any indication, Berry will be moving on

The new ideal has no room for that old circus
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JakeF 11:24 PM 03-11-2019
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
Serious question; what, in your mind, would Eric Berry actually do with another team?
coach?
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Sweet Daddy Hate 11:26 PM 03-11-2019
Originally Posted by JakeF:
coach?
Well, that's a better answer than I was expecting.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 11:43 PM 03-11-2019
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
If recent developments are any indication, Berry will be moving on

The new ideal has no room for that old circus
See, here's the deal:

Spags and his cadre of defensive geniuses could have easily found a role for Berry, Houston, and Ford. It was never a question of fitting the scheme or these guys being so far off the mark that they couldn't be put to work. I don't think good coaches release talented players over scheme or because they aren't "their guys", especially when you have a tight cap.

I think what it was, was taking a look at the tape, looking at practices, and just observing how these three were carrying themselves. And I think that ultimately, they didn't like what they were seeing in conjunction with reports and information they were getting from Reid, the remaining defensive coaches, and the front office.

And I believe that at the end of the day, with the defense being ranked at #31, it was decided that a personnel and culture sweep were going to be far more beneficial both in the short term and in the long term, than trying to make it work with guys that in their opinion weren't getting it done on multiple levels.
Out of all three, I think Ford is young enough that you could probably break his bad habits and coach him up to whatever your particular vision of a pass rush specialist is in this new defense. But of the three, he was the one with the most trade potential, the one that was injured the most per capita, and the least versatile. It was all but written in the stars once he had a good season that he was going on the block. And I hope we get him moved because I don't think he will be mentally strong enough to continue on as a Chief after having been tagged and put out on the market.
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Flying High D 12:05 AM 03-12-2019
“the one that was injured the most per capita“

$1.67 million per tackle Spirit coach wants to know if you would like to put a wager on that?
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Sweet Daddy Hate 12:07 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Flying High D:
“the one that was injured the most per capita“

$1.67 million per tackle Spirit coach wants to know if you would like to put a wager on that?
Sure. Dee's been out almost two seasons and hasn't even completed 5 years of contract.

Berry's been out two seasons but has been here since 2010.
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Flying High D 12:22 AM 03-12-2019
It’s gotta be close.
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BossChief 12:27 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
Sure. Dee's been out almost two seasons and hasn't even completed 5 years of contract.

Berry's been out two seasons but has been here since 2010.
Ford has missed 13 games in 5 years.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 12:50 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Ford has missed 13 games in 5 years.
Damn. I thought he was entering year 5.
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eDave 01:55 AM 03-12-2019
Does anyone even want Berry? Keep him on as a coach.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02:04 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by eDave:
Does anyone even want Berry? Keep him on as a coach.
If he’s healthy I’d want him back
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BlackOp 02:21 AM 03-12-2019
Berry has to be gone...if Veach allocates $30+ million to the safety position this season, this team is in terrible hands.

The only conceivable reason to keep Berry is....no, there isn't one. He's not good anymore. He's slow and only plays when his spirit "feels like it".

It'll be interesting what his real market value is...as opposed to Chunt's terrible contract.

I'm sure they can find a professional inspirational speaker...to give pregame "rah rah" rants for $250k.
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Red Dawg 05:32 AM 03-12-2019
Keeping Berry would be a mistake. He won't have surgery, probably afraid to do any more to his Achilles and miss another year. His foot isn't any better. He sat the whole season and it didn't heal and won't heal without another procedure
His status hasn't changed, day to day and will play if he feels like it. That's bullshit, save what you can and move on. Its time.
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GloryDayz 06:03 AM 03-12-2019
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate:
Serious question; what, in your mind, would Eric Berry actually do with another team?
Hold on, I'm still thinking...
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