Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Arguing semantics isnt going to help your defense of a scumbag
Semantics always have a role when trying to differentiate truth from perception, conclusion, prejudice and suspicion.
That said, as I was trying my level best to review the hard evidence as objectively as I could, and as I witnessed the catfight brewing here on CP, and as I reflected back over the past three decades, I realized for myself I'm out of fucks to give.
Defending Hill on the merits, such as they are, OR damning him on the conclusions you personally feel secure drawing, . . . the damage has been done. Success with Hill on the team can no longer be a joyous communal experience, no matter what. And I'm starting to suspect that enjoying the Chiefs at all can no longer be a joyous communal event, at least for those with years of experience.
Let new blood fill the franchise roster, and fill the stands, and fill the jerseys and merch and all the BB threads. In the words of Roger Murtaugh, I'm getting too old for this shit. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins: If he's an abuser?
Why did he go in the fifth round of the draft again?
He took a plea. The matter was later expunged.
We all know he has a history. We know that history "can" be repeated. It doesn't "have" to be repeated, though. That's why we have words like rehabilitation and stuff like that.
Nonetheless, parsing non-contextual words in order to score PlanetPoints is unseemly. Either stand up and debate like a man or piss yourself.
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
"I rode for you against that detective and the CPS people, and they said, literally, time and time again, that ________ kept saying, 'Daddy punches me,' which you do when he starts crying. What do you do? You make him open up his arms and you punch him in the chest. And then if he gets in trouble you get the belt out."
"Ok, so what about you? What you going to do?"
At that point, he accuses her of using a belt too. He never denies punching his kid or hitting him with a belt. It's altogether likely that she beats him too and they are both violent people. But her personal failings do not excuse Hill's. They should both be prosecuted.
Do any of you have children? If someone accused you of beating one of them with a belt and you didn't, your first reaction would be to ask the other parent what they did if you know you didn't do it?
I'd day she's an admitted liar and I don't believe a word she says.
Guess what the JoCo prosecutors are going to think?
"This bitch lied to us, we can't believe a word she says."
Originally Posted by God of Thunder:
You're right - a super bowl is more important than keeping someone who knowingly beat his child????
some other team will just pick him up unless he's just not allowed to play in the NFL anymore. There's no honor in this league. May as well just keep his dumb ass if he can still play or we might just end up playing against him in the playoffs. Why should other teams get to reap the rewards for a player fucking up? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
I think she wanted to use his criminal history and the fact he's okay with being physical with his kid to the point of being abusive to leverage money out of him, since he was obviously positioned to earn tens of millions of dollars for being a top 5 NFL receiver before the kids broken arm was noticed by DFS/DA/local news media.
He's an idiot that doesn't realize you can't choke / hit people and definitely can't do that your own kid in any capacity that a reasonable person would call punching a toddler 'discipline' and she's an idiot for staying with a dude with a track record of being physically abusive and possibly a criminally stupid person who would risk an extortion charge at the expense of letting her kid be in the care of an abusive father as long as no one knows about it and he gets a superstar payday.
How can she get money from him if he’s financially ruined and can’t get paid? He’s making a relatively low amount of money now. This feels like a toxic relationship where each of them try to control the other. If she’s pregnant with twins and has a boy with him why not divorce and get child support? Alimony etc.
This feels like hurting him because she can and and he does the same to her. It seems mindless.
I don’t see where he admits to anything in the audio. He’s just being an idiot by responding with an aggressive comment. Does he admit to punching his son in the chest? I don’t hear him denying it but he doesn’t admit it either.
I think it’s fair to say they are toxic for each other and they should end their relationship. It’s sad for the kids. Hopefully CPS can place the boy with loving family. [Reply]
Every other team in the NFL is chomping at the bits at this situation. They are all saying "yes yes, dumbasses release him so we can get him cheap, we'll put out a press conference about how he's changing and taking anger management classes and it will be all good and that speed will be on our team!" [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo:
How can she get money from him if he’s financially ruined and can’t get paid? He’s making a relatively low amount of money now. This feels like a toxic relationship where each of them try to control the other. If she’s pregnant with twins and has a boy with him why not divorce and get child support? Alimony etc.
This feels like hurting him because she can and and he does the same to her. It seems mindless.
I don’t see where he admits to anything in the audio. He’s just being an idiot by responding with an aggressive comment. Does he admit to punching his son in the chest? I don’t hear him denying it but he doesn’t admit it either.
I think it’s fair to say they are toxic for each other and they should end their relationship. It’s sad for the kids. Hopefully CPS can place the big with loving family.
She's done it to him before.
The only thing Tyreek is guilty of is not leaving that crazy fucked up bitch behind 3 years ago. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bump:
Every other team in the NFL is chomping at the bits at this situation. They are all saying "yes yes, dumbasses release him so we can get him cheap, we'll put out a press conference about how he's changing and taking anger management classes and it will be all good and that speed will be on our team!"