Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made.
Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft.
Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.)
It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last.
Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport.
Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal.
Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season.
Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles.
Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking.
After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway.
If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him. [Reply]
And on the Orlando Brown subject, if that’s what they want I’ll support it obviously, but I’d prefer not give up a, or multiple high round picks and pay premiere money. I’d rather have a guy with less miles and less money but I understand it’s not that simple. He’s proven. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tredadda:
I don't even fault him for Hardman. He has a strong armed QB and needed someone who could stretch the field. With the Hill situation as it was at the time it looked like a good choice. I am not so sure had there not been a danger of Hill playing Veach would have selected Hardman.
I don't fault him for Hardman either. Still not convinced we would have had to moved up for him either, but 3 or 4 other receivers did go off the board right in that window. [Reply]
Originally Posted by tredadda:
I don't even fault him for Hardman. He has a strong armed QB and needed someone who could stretch the field. With the Hill situation as it was at the time it looked like a good choice. I am not so sure had there not been a danger of Hill playing Veach would have selected Hardman.
I forgot about the Hill situation, it definitely makes more sense now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by In58men:
I forgot about the Hill situation, it definitely makes more sense now.
dude, the NFL, Veach, Reid, Hunt had all heard the secret recording of Hill by his ex that cleared him of everything.
They all knew before the draft he had did nothing wrong. Hill wasn’t going to be suspended or disciplined. They were not covering their ass’s in case Hill wasn’t on the team. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
dude, the NFL, Veach, Reid, Hunt had all heard the secret recording of Hill by his ex that cleared him of everything.
They all knew before the draft he had did nothing wrong. Hill wasn’t going to be suspended or disciplined. They were not covering their ass’s in case Hill wasn’t on the team.
You very well could be right. Given Hill’s past and current situation at the time, I could see Veach playing it safe. At the time, nobody really knew if Hill would be getting into more bullshit. There was definitely character issues to be concerned about. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
dude, the NFL, Veach, Reid, Hunt had all heard the secret recording of Hill by his ex that cleared him of everything.
They all knew before the draft he had did nothing wrong. Hill wasn’t going to be suspended or disciplined. They were not covering their ass’s in case Hill wasn’t on the team.
I don’t personally believe that. They would have made it public sooner imo. How would they have gotten it? From her? The news station who was click baiting the hell out of the story? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
And on the Orlando Brown subject, if that’s what they want I’ll support it obviously, but I’d prefer not give up a, or multiple high round picks and pay premiere money. I’d rather have a guy with less miles and less money but I understand it’s not that simple. He’s proven.
He’s proven as a RT on a run-oriented offense though. Don’t see it being a seamless transition to LT, especially with how agile Reid typically would prefer his OTs.
Think the move is WR2 (Bateman/Toney) in Round 1, OT (Spencer Brown/ Forsyth) round 2, LB (Dylan Moses) round 3. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056:
He’s proven as a RT on a run-oriented offense though. Don’t see it being a seamless transition to LT, especially with how agile Reid typically would prefer his OTs.
Think the move is WR2 (Bateman/Toney) in Round 1, OT (Spencer Brown/ Forsyth) round 2, LB (Dylan Moses) round 3.
Pass on Toney. Give me Terrace Marshall JR!!! [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056:
He’s proven as a RT on a run-oriented offense though. Don’t see it being a seamless transition to LT, especially with how agile Reid typically would prefer his OTs.
Think the move is WR2 (Bateman/Toney) in Round 1, OT (Spencer Brown/ Forsyth) round 2, LB (Dylan Moses) round 3.
I kind of think it’s edge, but completely agree on the transition thing. I haven’t watched enough of him really. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
I don’t personally believe that. They would have made it public sooner imo. How would they have gotten it? From her? The news station who was click baiting the hell out of the story?
Hill's lawyer provided a copy of the tape to all of them. They have said that publicly after the tape went public. Hill has said he wasn't worried about discipline because the NFL and the Chiefs already had the tape.This is history, not conjuncture. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Hill's lawyer provided a copy of the tape to all of them. They have said that publicly after the tape went public. Hill has said he wasn't worried about discipline because the NFL and the Chiefs already had the tape.This is history, not conjuncture.
But you think they had it the day of the draft? When the news hit days before? I am also genuinely curious how he got a copy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
But you think they had it the day of the draft? When the news hit days before? I am also genuinely curious how he got a copy.
We know they had it months before the draft. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Dunerdr:
This isnt the place for it but were they both recording each other lol? What a toxic relationship.
Dude, you need to get your Hill history correct.
Hill didn't know he was being recorded, She was trying to trap him into admitting something. Thats what brought validity to the tape. He didnt know he was being recorded, she was recording and still admitted it was all BS going back to Hill pushing her down stairs at OK state. [Reply]