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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Donger 07:18 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Yes, I can read, it appears you struggle.
Great. And how much worse is .2% compared to .1%? And 1% to .1%?

Not much, right?
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ShowtimeSBMVP 07:20 PM 03-23-2020

A man with coronavirus who works in LA says the drug used to treat malaria saved his life | FOX 11 Los Angeles https://t.co/3HdwhBx7t3

— Katie Pavlich (@KatiePavlich) March 24, 2020

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Marcellus 07:20 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
That's the whole point, you knob. THIS IS NOT INFLUENZA. IT IS A NOVEL CORONAVIRUS.

You've been given the numbers. You just ignore them because you are clinging to what some idiot told you and you believed him.
Comparing the last flu pandemic to this one is irrelevant eh?

I didn't realize the statistics from the CDC were from some idiot.
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FloridaMan88 07:21 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by KCUnited:
Do we have eyes on Fauci yet?
Fauci is 79 years old... in the high risk group... he should take his own advice and social distance himself.
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AustinChief 07:22 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
And that would be fantastic news.
Yes but if it plays out that way and we find out Covid-19 has a CFR around .2 and has a fairly easily quantified "at risk" category... we need a serious look at future policy. Our current policy is far too emotionally driven for my tastes. Hopefully this episode will make people more jaded and less hysterical in the future.

And YES hysterical is EXACTLY the correct term.

Originally Posted by :
deriving from or affected by uncontrolled extreme emotion.
Worldwide, we have become far too feminized when it comes to matters that should be looked at with unemotional clarity.
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Marcellus 07:22 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Great. And how much worse is .2% compared to .1%? And 1% to .1%?

Not much, right?
Not nearly as large as the difference between 42,000 and 1.5MM.

Can you figure that out?
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mr. tegu 07:23 PM 03-23-2020
I was surprised at the amount of people driving today both on the highways and on the regular roads.
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Donger 07:24 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Comparing the last flu pandemic to this one is irrelevant eh?

I didn't realize the statistics from the CDC were from some idiot.
You were told (accurately) that comparing COVID-19 to H1N1 was apples to oranges. You've been given the numbers which show they aren't comparable at all. You've also been told that SARS-CoV-2 is a novel coronavirus, and H1N1 was influenza, so by definition, they are apples and oranges.
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FloridaMan88 07:25 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
That's the whole point, you knob. THIS IS NOT INFLUENZA. IT IS A NOVEL CORONAVIRUS.

You've been given the numbers. You just ignore them because you are clinging to what some idiot told you and you believed him.
You still apparently don’t understand that coronavirus, the subfamily of viruses has been around forever, COVID-19 is a novel strain.

This is the same situation as the Swine Flu pandemic in 2009-2010... that was a novel strain of H1N1.

Two pandemics, two novel strains of contagious viruses that have been around forever.
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Donger 07:25 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Not nearly as large as the difference between 42,000 and 1.5MM.

Can you figure that out?
I didn't think so. I figured percentages and you don't mix.

Yes, H1N1 had massive infections. Gee, I wonder why...
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Donger 07:28 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
You still apparently don’t understand that coronavirus, the subfamily of viruses has been around forever, COVID-19 is a novel strain.

This is the same situation as the Swine Flu pandemic in 2009-2010... that was a novel strain of H1N1.

Two pandemics, two novel strains of contagious viruses that have been around forever.
Well aware that, actually. And we probably should have locked down for H1N1.
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eDave 07:28 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Fauci is 79 years old... in the high risk group... he should take his own advice and social distance himself.
Just him?
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Marcellus 07:32 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I didn't think so. I figured percentages and you don't mix.

Yes, H1N1 had massive infections. Gee, I wonder why...
It also was way more lethal then the regular flu for a year.

I mean I know you want to ignore the math because it doesn't support your theories.

Simple and plain math figures with timeline, infections and deaths is all I am basing my opinion off of and frankly this response doesn't add up.

We will find out if my opinion is wrong or not though there will be discussion for how much the lockdown impacted things, but to act like the data I have posted is just nonsense is frankly stupid. I see stuff every day from media and experts and the timeline that points towards what I am saying being correct.

Pointing out the genesis of the strain is different doesn't make the argument you think it does.

And to answer you question as to why H1N1 spread here so fast, its because it started here.
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Marcellus 07:34 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Well aware that, actually. And we probably should have locked down for H1N1.
Oh well shit dude, never mind any more discussion because that just proved you are back tracking and an idiot.
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Monticore 07:36 PM 03-23-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Not nearly as large as the difference between 42,000 and 1.5MM.

Can you figure that out?
Maybe once this thing runs its course and 2 years from now the numbers come in you may be right but as of right now almost every expert on pandemics says you are wrong. Who would you put your money on today.
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