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Eleazar 09:58 PM 04-25-2019
If the Chiefs care about honor and decency, Tyreek Hill can’t be part of this team

BY VAHE GREGORIAN
April 25, 2019 10:31 PM,
Updated 20 minutes ago

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...229705219.html


The instantly infamous audio clip of Tyreek Hill and Crystal Espinal that KCTV-5 aired on Thursday night stood for many things at once.

It was a lens onto a chilling side of Hill, whose response to being told their 3-year-old son is terrified of him was, “You need to be terrified of me, too, bitch.” It was an appalling glimpse at what several sources have told The Star is a toxic relationship.

And her disturbing reference to covering for him with authorities (“I rode for you,” as she put it) was a window into the sorts of obstacles to which Johnson County district attorney Steve Howe seemed to be alluding on Thursday. That’s when he said a crime had been committed when it came their son, who The Star reported had suffered a broken arm among other injuries, but suggested he couldn’t bring charges because the couple had conspired to stonewall a month-long investigation.

Perhaps most of all, the excerpt from a recording Espinal reportedly made while the couple was walking in the Dubai International Airport also was a moment of tangible clarity and, in fact, a favor to the Chiefs.

Unless they are morally bankrupt, it’s easy now.

If they care about what they stand for, if they care about the community, if they care about victims of abuse and their families who already had to be conflicted watching this previously convicted man cavort on the field, Hill can’t be part of this team.

It’s that simple: If they care about honor and decency, Hill can’t be part of this team.

Even after Howe’s extraordinary news conference, there was scant room for equivocation or rationalization about Hill unless they were bent on denial or creating smokescreens around the real issue.

Which they could well have been, given that Hill is their second-most dynamic offensive player behind Patrick Mahomes and arguably fundamental to their ambitions of playing in the Super Bowl for the first time in half a century.

Sure, the Chiefs are in business to compete, not be a pillar of virtue. Those worlds can collide, and it can be complicated. Or as reader Dan Curry eloquently put it in an email on Thursday: “We want them to be a beacon of honor, but they’re also a business where that beacon shines on winning from the thousands of fans who follow them.”

But the spotlight now is on what looms as a trend for this franchise, which cut running back Kareem Hunt last fall only after video surfaced of him knocking over and shoving a woman months before and emphasized it was for lying.

Earlier this week, the Chiefs traded for Seattle defensive end Frank Clark, who was involved in a domestic violence incident in 2014 that led to him being dismissed from the Michigan football team.

Sure, it’s hard to have a one-size-fits-all policy. And we can’t be so cynical that we don’t believe in second chances, can we?

Just the same, this is a franchise that should feel more duty-bound than most to be sensitive to domestic violence in the wake of the 2012 murder of Kasandra Perkins by linebacker Jovan Belcher, who then killed himself in the parking lot outside the Chiefs’ training facility.

When the Chiefs drafted Hill in 2016, a few months after he pleaded guilty to domestic assault and battery by strangulation of the then-pregnant Espinal, I touched base with Perkins’ mother, Becky Gonzalez.

“I heard the story: It’s disheartening to see another case of money over morals,” Becky Gonzalez, the grandmother to orphaned baby Zoey, said via text message. “They (the NFL) do whatever damage control is necessary at the time to appease (the) public but never take a stance.

“I hope they don’t end up regretting their decision.”

For a while, their decision looked good. While Hill was emerging as a human blur and one of the most exciting players anyone has ever seen, he also by all accounts was conducting himself with exemplary behavior.

When his three-year deferred sentence ended last August and Hill had completed all of his court-mandated requirements, Hill’s conviction in Payne County, Okla., was expunged. And it was heartening to hear what county assistant DA for domestic violence Debra Vincent said.

“Who’s to say that this wasn’t life-changing in how he looked at that part of his life?” she said in a phone interview at the time.

But Vincent also reminded me of the truth that was always lurking: She warned that the work he’d done to date was no guarantee of future behavior. Because his progress could only be measured over a lifetime, not a few years — just as concerned local domestic abuse experts warned when the Chiefs drafted Hill and trumpeted their vetting and urged us all to trust them.

And that’s the other favor this sad situation has done for the Chiefs. It stands as a statement that they need to change their attitude about this, not to mention their system.

When they said “trust us” and implied they knew better than the experts and said they had thoroughly vetted him and that they have their own in-house ways of working with these situations, they didn’t know what they didn’t know.

Now they need to own up to that and revisit how they do this part of the business, perhaps with a dose of transparency involved, lest they continue to go down this path and have reason to regret it again.

Vahe Gregorian has been a sports columnist for The Kansas City Star since 2013 after 25 years at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. He has covered a wide spectrum of sports, including 10 Olympics. Vahe was an English major at the University of Pennsylvania and earned his master’s degree at Mizzou.
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TwistedChief 03:39 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by kcpasco:
Have you ever heard of Spokane? Spokane and Seattle have kind of a rivalry. (Spokane is 1000000 x better). Just want to call out the hypocrisy of the NFL. You seem close to the media so push a ban for all DV on the entire league.
I think of Spokane and Seattle as the same thing to be honest. And I fully agree with you on the hypocrisy. I'm not sure what the solution is, but it wouldn't surprise me for a second if the NFL seeks to make an example out of Hill and he never plays another down of football.
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Mile High Mania 05:16 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Did he actually abuse his child...I haven't seen anything that says he did other than his psycho GF...the DA couldn't find anything. He wasn't listed in the 2nd police report. Funny when the police said "you are full of shit"..they went to TMZ.

Yeah..burn them all. That chick is a demon...
I think our words and actions give us a pretty good view into our souls... maybe nothing can be proven, but the words and actions (esp the part about raise his arms and punch him in the chest) are not the types of comments that normal/rational people make.
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Red Dawg 05:26 AM 04-26-2019
Leave emotion out of this. You get no points for moral high ground. Hunt is proof of that. Wait and see what happens with the league then make a decision. If he can still play we need to decide where that is with a trade.
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DrunkBassGuitar 06:07 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by kcpasco:
He’s cool as a Brown though.
browns fans are idiots if they're not concerned that Dorsey will build a team around people who punch women and children.

This is your future Browns fans
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GloryDayz 06:14 AM 04-26-2019
Not that they haven't already started the process of gifting Tyreek to another team so he can get in the way of us getting to a SB, but the Chiefs need to let the NFL handle this. Let the NFL hand-out any penalty and set any "return to the NFL" conditions. Just let them know that that, from a football side, KHunt won't happen again...

But I suspect Clark will allow himself to be be out-played. Again.
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Mecca 06:20 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by jd1020:
There's a bit of a difference in these 2 situations, no?

Hunt was in an altercation between 2 drunk people in which no one was seriously hurt. She punched him in the face and he kicked her in the side at probably 10% of the force he could have. Was it a bad situation? Sure. Does it even come close to beating a helpless child? Not nearly. Seemingly the only reason Hunt was released was because he lied about the incident to the team and then the video came out.
There is a video of the 19th pick in the draft beating a woman in the head like a punching bag while she is on the ground....you tell me the NFL cares.
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KChiefs1 06:22 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by Mecca:
There is a video of the 19th pick in the draft beating a woman in the head like a punching bag while she is on the ground....you tell me the NFL cares.

Weed is more important to the NFL.
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Mecca 06:23 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Weed is more important to the NFL.
Pretty much, they are so ass backwards.
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KChiefs1 06:24 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by kcpasco:
I live in the PNW and the Seahawk fans I talk and work with were surprised of his past criminal history. That should tell you something. I brought it up and they were like I didn’t know that.

They also think Kansas City is in Kansas too.
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wisconsinchief 06:31 AM 04-26-2019
Evidently, Tyreek lives in Johnson County, but I suspect that is a long, long way from where he grew up. You can take the man out of the hood, but that doesn't take the hood out of the man. Many of these players grew up in a violent environment - drugs, fists, knives and guns. I've mentored inner city youth and their first response to any slight is a raging beat down. It is literally survival of the fittest. The NFL and the teams know this, because they have been around these guys for decades. Why doesn't the NFL do something? Because, evidently, they simply don't care - "Show me the money!" Cut or suspend a guy, move him to the next team, or just ignore it until he kills someone. It's like the concussion issue. The teams and the NFL knew something was wrong, but weren't compelled to do something until the Players Union made a big stink and then there was that movie. We need the same kind of attention toward helping these players get on the right side of civility. The players need to demand it and the fans need to demand it. To do otherwise would be inhumane, IMHO.
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Mecca 06:33 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by wisconsinchief:
Evidently, Tyreek lives in Johnson County, but I suspect that is a long, long way from where he grew up. You can take the man out of the hood, but that doesn't take the hood out of the man. Many of these players grew up in a violent environment - drugs, fists, knives and guns. I've mentored inner city youth and their first response to any slight is a raging beat down. It is literally survival of the fittest. The NFL and the teams know this, because they have been around these guys for decades. Why doesn't the NFL do something? Because, evidently, they simply don't care - "Show me the money!" Cut or suspend a guy, move him to the next team, or just ignore it until he kills someone. It's like the concussion issue. The teams and the NFL knew something was wrong, but weren't compelled to do something until the Players Union made a big stink and then there was that movie. We need the same kind of attention toward helping these players get on the right side of civility. The players need to demand it and the fans need to demand it. To do otherwise would be inhumane, IMHO.
Probably because if they got rid of all the guys who are just violent people their league wouldn't be nearly as good.
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RealSNR 07:01 AM 04-26-2019
I’d root for Hitler if it meant winning the Super Bowl.

I don’t care anymore. Patriots gonna cheat? We’ll use pieces of shit as players. No honor in it, but whatever it fucking takes, I guess
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Mecca 07:02 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
I’d root for Hitler if it meant winning the Super Bowl.

I don’t care anymore. Patriots gonna cheat? We’ll use pieces of shit as players. No honor in it, but whatever it fucking takes, I guess
I'll be honest, that's how I feel.

I;ve said forever the players aren't my friends so I really don't care who they are as people.
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Red Dawg 07:04 AM 04-26-2019
Whole article is stupid. NFL doesn't have a moral high ground. I believe Hill is outta here and he should be but cutting right now is a bad move. We did that with Hunt and got nothing. We just can't do that again. We need to control his next landing spot if there is one.
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tyreekthefreak 07:06 AM 04-26-2019
Honor and Decency? It's a business! Abuse of any kind is bad. What Tyreek is alleged to have done is his way of parenting. Was it abuse? Who knows what really happened or how hard he "punched" his son.
You start talking "honor and decency" where do you draw the line??? Keep Reek and get him help. Reevaluate his position next year.

DO NOT RELEASE HIM!!!
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