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Eleazar 09:58 PM 04-25-2019
If the Chiefs care about honor and decency, Tyreek Hill can’t be part of this team

BY VAHE GREGORIAN
April 25, 2019 10:31 PM,
Updated 20 minutes ago

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...229705219.html


The instantly infamous audio clip of Tyreek Hill and Crystal Espinal that KCTV-5 aired on Thursday night stood for many things at once.

It was a lens onto a chilling side of Hill, whose response to being told their 3-year-old son is terrified of him was, “You need to be terrified of me, too, bitch.” It was an appalling glimpse at what several sources have told The Star is a toxic relationship.

And her disturbing reference to covering for him with authorities (“I rode for you,” as she put it) was a window into the sorts of obstacles to which Johnson County district attorney Steve Howe seemed to be alluding on Thursday. That’s when he said a crime had been committed when it came their son, who The Star reported had suffered a broken arm among other injuries, but suggested he couldn’t bring charges because the couple had conspired to stonewall a month-long investigation.

Perhaps most of all, the excerpt from a recording Espinal reportedly made while the couple was walking in the Dubai International Airport also was a moment of tangible clarity and, in fact, a favor to the Chiefs.

Unless they are morally bankrupt, it’s easy now.

If they care about what they stand for, if they care about the community, if they care about victims of abuse and their families who already had to be conflicted watching this previously convicted man cavort on the field, Hill can’t be part of this team.

It’s that simple: If they care about honor and decency, Hill can’t be part of this team.

Even after Howe’s extraordinary news conference, there was scant room for equivocation or rationalization about Hill unless they were bent on denial or creating smokescreens around the real issue.

Which they could well have been, given that Hill is their second-most dynamic offensive player behind Patrick Mahomes and arguably fundamental to their ambitions of playing in the Super Bowl for the first time in half a century.

Sure, the Chiefs are in business to compete, not be a pillar of virtue. Those worlds can collide, and it can be complicated. Or as reader Dan Curry eloquently put it in an email on Thursday: “We want them to be a beacon of honor, but they’re also a business where that beacon shines on winning from the thousands of fans who follow them.”

But the spotlight now is on what looms as a trend for this franchise, which cut running back Kareem Hunt last fall only after video surfaced of him knocking over and shoving a woman months before and emphasized it was for lying.

Earlier this week, the Chiefs traded for Seattle defensive end Frank Clark, who was involved in a domestic violence incident in 2014 that led to him being dismissed from the Michigan football team.

Sure, it’s hard to have a one-size-fits-all policy. And we can’t be so cynical that we don’t believe in second chances, can we?

Just the same, this is a franchise that should feel more duty-bound than most to be sensitive to domestic violence in the wake of the 2012 murder of Kasandra Perkins by linebacker Jovan Belcher, who then killed himself in the parking lot outside the Chiefs’ training facility.

When the Chiefs drafted Hill in 2016, a few months after he pleaded guilty to domestic assault and battery by strangulation of the then-pregnant Espinal, I touched base with Perkins’ mother, Becky Gonzalez.

“I heard the story: It’s disheartening to see another case of money over morals,” Becky Gonzalez, the grandmother to orphaned baby Zoey, said via text message. “They (the NFL) do whatever damage control is necessary at the time to appease (the) public but never take a stance.

“I hope they don’t end up regretting their decision.”

For a while, their decision looked good. While Hill was emerging as a human blur and one of the most exciting players anyone has ever seen, he also by all accounts was conducting himself with exemplary behavior.

When his three-year deferred sentence ended last August and Hill had completed all of his court-mandated requirements, Hill’s conviction in Payne County, Okla., was expunged. And it was heartening to hear what county assistant DA for domestic violence Debra Vincent said.

“Who’s to say that this wasn’t life-changing in how he looked at that part of his life?” she said in a phone interview at the time.

But Vincent also reminded me of the truth that was always lurking: She warned that the work he’d done to date was no guarantee of future behavior. Because his progress could only be measured over a lifetime, not a few years — just as concerned local domestic abuse experts warned when the Chiefs drafted Hill and trumpeted their vetting and urged us all to trust them.

And that’s the other favor this sad situation has done for the Chiefs. It stands as a statement that they need to change their attitude about this, not to mention their system.

When they said “trust us” and implied they knew better than the experts and said they had thoroughly vetted him and that they have their own in-house ways of working with these situations, they didn’t know what they didn’t know.

Now they need to own up to that and revisit how they do this part of the business, perhaps with a dose of transparency involved, lest they continue to go down this path and have reason to regret it again.

Vahe Gregorian has been a sports columnist for The Kansas City Star since 2013 after 25 years at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. He has covered a wide spectrum of sports, including 10 Olympics. Vahe was an English major at the University of Pennsylvania and earned his master’s degree at Mizzou.
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BlackOp 10:28 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
She baited him in that phone call.
I only saw a short section but her conversation sounded stilted and forced...she was definitely goading him...the only question is why did she do it? She's pregnant with twins and they just got a "no charges" verdict..

There's some strange shit going on in that household..
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Prison Bitch 11:01 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Good point...

These sports writers suck...whipping SJWs into a frenzy.
He needs to deny everything, blame her, make them charge him, force them to go to court, maybe plea it down, and keep playing FB after saying he’s left her and won’t put up with her lies.


He can survive this but he MUST start forcefully denying everything immediately. NO APOLOGIES. If you thjnk I’m wrong ask Jussie Smolett if it works
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BryanBusby 11:04 PM 04-25-2019
They don't. No team does.

The Titans took a guy that wailed on a woman in the first round and ESPN immediately started to whitewash it. Teams do not care.
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Redbled 12:11 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
They don't. No team does.

The Titans took a guy that wailed on a woman in the first round and ESPN immediately started to whitewash it. Teams do not care.
Ya that was so odd.
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Redbled 12:12 AM 04-26-2019
You send no better message by cutting him than suspending him. And you just prove you are a fool for not making another team pay for him.
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DTVietnam 12:13 AM 04-26-2019
cool thread bro. .
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-King- 12:17 AM 04-26-2019
No team cares about honor and decency.
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jd1020 12:19 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by Mecca:
There is no honor in the NFL, seriously does anyone seem to care about what Hunt did today? No that's right they don't cause none of those teams care about domestic violence.
There's a bit of a difference in these 2 situations, no?

Hunt was in an altercation between 2 drunk people in which no one was seriously hurt. She punched him in the face and he kicked her in the side at probably 10% of the force he could have. Was it a bad situation? Sure. Does it even come close to beating a helpless child? Not nearly. Seemingly the only reason Hunt was released was because he lied about the incident to the team and then the video came out.
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chiefzilla1501 12:20 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by Bump:
thats not what I'm saying. Just don't let another team get him. We could suspend him until his contract is up, let him play and franchise him as many times as you can, expel him from the NFL. Some other team is guaranteed to pick him up if you just cut him, what good does that do us?
Dude, he is probably not playing for the Chiefs again. The Chiefs ran a dog and pony show for a few years over and over again apologizing and promising he was a changed man. They aren't going to pull that magic act again. Nor will they trust him ever again.

And he is not getting scooped up by other teams. This is not just some other troublemaker. This is not kareem hunt. Barely anyone will be talking about hunts behavior a few years from now just like barely anyone talks about Adrian Peterson. Tyreeks first incident happened a few years ago and people STILL talk about it. Any owner that signs him will get it even worse than what Jerry jones got for signing Greg hardy.
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kcpasco 12:27 AM 04-26-2019
Article should be changed to if NFL instead of Chiefs. I might give a shit than.

The Star will challenge the Chiefs but would they dare take on the entire NFL? Asking for a friend.

Would you guys at the Star run a hit piece on the next team to sign Hill or would management say no?
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jerryaldini 12:46 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
He needs to deny everything, blame her, make them charge him, force them to go to court, maybe plea it down, and keep playing FB after saying he’s left her and won’t put up with her lies.


He can survive this but he MUST start forcefully denying everything immediately. NO APOLOGIES. If you thjnk I’m wrong ask Jussie Smolett if it works
Or DJT. Just kidding!
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Danguardace 12:54 AM 04-26-2019
The league needs to take a stance imo, a little like what Vince McMahon is promising to do. GMs and coaches have jobs to keep and families to feed, they will look for every competitive edge they can. Hill wont get cut because of the Hunt situation where you ultimately strengthen another team, and everyone has in the back of their mind what if He joins the raiders or Broncos.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 01:25 AM 04-26-2019
tl;dr

eat shit old fart.
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BlackOp 01:34 AM 04-26-2019
This whole thread makes me hate humanity...not only for the hypocrisy...but the straight up dishonesty. This guy is is Muppet...a ****ing controlled mouth-piece corporate Muppet. Honor and decency while simultaneously peddling disingenuous moral superiority. He can **** him self...and spend his pay checks knowing he's a professional liar. Hopefully he chokes on the alcohol needed to sustain such a sham life.
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TwistedChief 01:38 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
This whole thread makes me hate humanity...
At last, we are in agreement!

But for entirely different reasons.
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