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Eleazar 09:58 PM 04-25-2019
If the Chiefs care about honor and decency, Tyreek Hill can’t be part of this team

BY VAHE GREGORIAN
April 25, 2019 10:31 PM,
Updated 20 minutes ago

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...229705219.html


The instantly infamous audio clip of Tyreek Hill and Crystal Espinal that KCTV-5 aired on Thursday night stood for many things at once.

It was a lens onto a chilling side of Hill, whose response to being told their 3-year-old son is terrified of him was, “You need to be terrified of me, too, bitch.” It was an appalling glimpse at what several sources have told The Star is a toxic relationship.

And her disturbing reference to covering for him with authorities (“I rode for you,” as she put it) was a window into the sorts of obstacles to which Johnson County district attorney Steve Howe seemed to be alluding on Thursday. That’s when he said a crime had been committed when it came their son, who The Star reported had suffered a broken arm among other injuries, but suggested he couldn’t bring charges because the couple had conspired to stonewall a month-long investigation.

Perhaps most of all, the excerpt from a recording Espinal reportedly made while the couple was walking in the Dubai International Airport also was a moment of tangible clarity and, in fact, a favor to the Chiefs.

Unless they are morally bankrupt, it’s easy now.

If they care about what they stand for, if they care about the community, if they care about victims of abuse and their families who already had to be conflicted watching this previously convicted man cavort on the field, Hill can’t be part of this team.

It’s that simple: If they care about honor and decency, Hill can’t be part of this team.

Even after Howe’s extraordinary news conference, there was scant room for equivocation or rationalization about Hill unless they were bent on denial or creating smokescreens around the real issue.

Which they could well have been, given that Hill is their second-most dynamic offensive player behind Patrick Mahomes and arguably fundamental to their ambitions of playing in the Super Bowl for the first time in half a century.

Sure, the Chiefs are in business to compete, not be a pillar of virtue. Those worlds can collide, and it can be complicated. Or as reader Dan Curry eloquently put it in an email on Thursday: “We want them to be a beacon of honor, but they’re also a business where that beacon shines on winning from the thousands of fans who follow them.”

But the spotlight now is on what looms as a trend for this franchise, which cut running back Kareem Hunt last fall only after video surfaced of him knocking over and shoving a woman months before and emphasized it was for lying.

Earlier this week, the Chiefs traded for Seattle defensive end Frank Clark, who was involved in a domestic violence incident in 2014 that led to him being dismissed from the Michigan football team.

Sure, it’s hard to have a one-size-fits-all policy. And we can’t be so cynical that we don’t believe in second chances, can we?

Just the same, this is a franchise that should feel more duty-bound than most to be sensitive to domestic violence in the wake of the 2012 murder of Kasandra Perkins by linebacker Jovan Belcher, who then killed himself in the parking lot outside the Chiefs’ training facility.

When the Chiefs drafted Hill in 2016, a few months after he pleaded guilty to domestic assault and battery by strangulation of the then-pregnant Espinal, I touched base with Perkins’ mother, Becky Gonzalez.

“I heard the story: It’s disheartening to see another case of money over morals,” Becky Gonzalez, the grandmother to orphaned baby Zoey, said via text message. “They (the NFL) do whatever damage control is necessary at the time to appease (the) public but never take a stance.

“I hope they don’t end up regretting their decision.”

For a while, their decision looked good. While Hill was emerging as a human blur and one of the most exciting players anyone has ever seen, he also by all accounts was conducting himself with exemplary behavior.

When his three-year deferred sentence ended last August and Hill had completed all of his court-mandated requirements, Hill’s conviction in Payne County, Okla., was expunged. And it was heartening to hear what county assistant DA for domestic violence Debra Vincent said.

“Who’s to say that this wasn’t life-changing in how he looked at that part of his life?” she said in a phone interview at the time.

But Vincent also reminded me of the truth that was always lurking: She warned that the work he’d done to date was no guarantee of future behavior. Because his progress could only be measured over a lifetime, not a few years — just as concerned local domestic abuse experts warned when the Chiefs drafted Hill and trumpeted their vetting and urged us all to trust them.

And that’s the other favor this sad situation has done for the Chiefs. It stands as a statement that they need to change their attitude about this, not to mention their system.

When they said “trust us” and implied they knew better than the experts and said they had thoroughly vetted him and that they have their own in-house ways of working with these situations, they didn’t know what they didn’t know.

Now they need to own up to that and revisit how they do this part of the business, perhaps with a dose of transparency involved, lest they continue to go down this path and have reason to regret it again.

Vahe Gregorian has been a sports columnist for The Kansas City Star since 2013 after 25 years at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. He has covered a wide spectrum of sports, including 10 Olympics. Vahe was an English major at the University of Pennsylvania and earned his master’s degree at Mizzou.
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Eleazar 10:13 PM 04-25-2019
"Yeah, I know he beat the **** out of a three year old, but so what? I want to win football games." Some of you people are ****ing grotesque.
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Fishpicker 10:13 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
"Yeah, I know he beat the **** out of a three year old, but so what? I want to win football games." Some of you people are ****ing grotesque.
and you're kinda judgy
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ROYC75 10:14 PM 04-25-2019
As a defense attorney, I would have a hard time on CP finding jurors for a case.

I'm just saying!
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Red Dawg 10:14 PM 04-25-2019
He will be gone buy it would be stupid to just cut him. Control where he goes if anywhere
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Best22 10:15 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by kcpasco:
They aren’t cutting him now because of the draft. You will get your wish after the draft though. Because positive draft coverage is more important than child abuse.
The kid is safe now

Cutting Hill won’t make the kid any safer
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tredadda 10:15 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Honor and decency have netted this team exactly ZERO Superbowl appearances in 50 years...

I just remembered what drew me to becoming a football fan...the private lives of the players!

I was SOOO interested in what they did in the off-season, who they dated, their relationship spats...what they ate. What they wore when they got off the plane...

The NFL took DOD under the table money to force patriotic displays before games...what honor is he referencing again...the fake one that the media has created?
Exactly. While his actions are disgusting and detestable this is still a business and he is an elite player. The second he is cut another team will take him and attempt to rehab him. We still won’t hoist a Lombardi or even a Lamar Hunt trophy but we will have team “honor”. Sadly this team will never be a team of all pastors. I would be all for cutting him if no other team was allowed to sign him, but that’s not the case. This league is about winning not morality.
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Bump 10:16 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
"Yeah, I know he beat the **** out of a three year old, but so what? I want to win football games." Some of you people are ****ing grotesque.
thats not what I'm saying. Just don't let another team get him. We could suspend him until his contract is up, let him play and franchise him as many times as you can, expel him from the NFL. Some other team is guaranteed to pick him up if you just cut him, what good does that do us?
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tredadda 10:17 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
"Yeah, I know he beat the **** out of a three year old, but so what? I want to win football games." Some of you people are ****ing grotesque.
You are talking to the wrong audience. Try saying that to the GMs who will fight to get this guy the second the Chiefs cut him.
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rabblerouser 10:18 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by Best22:
The kid is safe now

Cutting Hill won’t make the kid any safer
It makes small-minded people feel better to go water-walking on some imaginary moral high ground and judging people and situations they know very little about.

Eleazar is definitely one of those people.

He will sleep better tonight because of this thread, somehow.
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kcclone 10:19 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
"Yeah, I know he beat the **** out of a three year old, but so what? I want to win football games." Some of you people are ****ing grotesque.
Well, he should be blackballed from ever earning a living again. That will show Tyreek and make the kids family situation way safer....
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Shiver Me Timbers 10:20 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by ROYC75:
As a defense attorney, I would have a hard time on CP finding jurors for a case.

I'm just saying!
You sure as hell don't want to move the trial to Denver either
I'm just sayin'
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rabblerouser 10:21 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
"Yeah, I know he beat the **** out of a three year old, but so what? I want to win football games." Some of you people are ****ing grotesque.
The only things we KNOW are :

Crystal Espinoza is an admitted liar.
She baited him in that phone call.
In both incidents that we know of, she was pregnant.

That's all we KNOW.

Unless you know something that the rest of us, KCTV5, the State of Kansas, and Johnson County Family Services don't know.

Wait...are you the "friend" who leaked the recording?
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kcclone 10:21 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by Best22:
The kid is safe now

Cutting Hill won’t make the kid any safer
You could argue that it would actually make the kid less safe. More financial stress for the family. Plus I’m pretty certain the CPS in Cleveland isn’t looking out for the kid as closely as they will in Joco.
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BlackOp 10:22 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Honor and decency means shitting on due process. Yeah ok, whatever.
Good point...

These sports writers suck...whipping SJWs into a frenzy.
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rabblerouser 10:22 PM 04-25-2019
Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers:
You sure as hell don't want to move the trial to Denver either
I'm just sayin'
Let's move it to Chicago?


Jussie Smollett can be Tyreek's attorney...
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