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Nzoner's Game Room>If the Chiefs care about honor and decency, Tyreek Hill can’t be part of this team
Eleazar 09:58 PM 04-25-2019
If the Chiefs care about honor and decency, Tyreek Hill can’t be part of this team

BY VAHE GREGORIAN
April 25, 2019 10:31 PM,
Updated 20 minutes ago

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...229705219.html


The instantly infamous audio clip of Tyreek Hill and Crystal Espinal that KCTV-5 aired on Thursday night stood for many things at once.

It was a lens onto a chilling side of Hill, whose response to being told their 3-year-old son is terrified of him was, “You need to be terrified of me, too, bitch.” It was an appalling glimpse at what several sources have told The Star is a toxic relationship.

And her disturbing reference to covering for him with authorities (“I rode for you,” as she put it) was a window into the sorts of obstacles to which Johnson County district attorney Steve Howe seemed to be alluding on Thursday. That’s when he said a crime had been committed when it came their son, who The Star reported had suffered a broken arm among other injuries, but suggested he couldn’t bring charges because the couple had conspired to stonewall a month-long investigation.

Perhaps most of all, the excerpt from a recording Espinal reportedly made while the couple was walking in the Dubai International Airport also was a moment of tangible clarity and, in fact, a favor to the Chiefs.

Unless they are morally bankrupt, it’s easy now.

If they care about what they stand for, if they care about the community, if they care about victims of abuse and their families who already had to be conflicted watching this previously convicted man cavort on the field, Hill can’t be part of this team.

It’s that simple: If they care about honor and decency, Hill can’t be part of this team.

Even after Howe’s extraordinary news conference, there was scant room for equivocation or rationalization about Hill unless they were bent on denial or creating smokescreens around the real issue.

Which they could well have been, given that Hill is their second-most dynamic offensive player behind Patrick Mahomes and arguably fundamental to their ambitions of playing in the Super Bowl for the first time in half a century.

Sure, the Chiefs are in business to compete, not be a pillar of virtue. Those worlds can collide, and it can be complicated. Or as reader Dan Curry eloquently put it in an email on Thursday: “We want them to be a beacon of honor, but they’re also a business where that beacon shines on winning from the thousands of fans who follow them.”

But the spotlight now is on what looms as a trend for this franchise, which cut running back Kareem Hunt last fall only after video surfaced of him knocking over and shoving a woman months before and emphasized it was for lying.

Earlier this week, the Chiefs traded for Seattle defensive end Frank Clark, who was involved in a domestic violence incident in 2014 that led to him being dismissed from the Michigan football team.

Sure, it’s hard to have a one-size-fits-all policy. And we can’t be so cynical that we don’t believe in second chances, can we?

Just the same, this is a franchise that should feel more duty-bound than most to be sensitive to domestic violence in the wake of the 2012 murder of Kasandra Perkins by linebacker Jovan Belcher, who then killed himself in the parking lot outside the Chiefs’ training facility.

When the Chiefs drafted Hill in 2016, a few months after he pleaded guilty to domestic assault and battery by strangulation of the then-pregnant Espinal, I touched base with Perkins’ mother, Becky Gonzalez.

“I heard the story: It’s disheartening to see another case of money over morals,” Becky Gonzalez, the grandmother to orphaned baby Zoey, said via text message. “They (the NFL) do whatever damage control is necessary at the time to appease (the) public but never take a stance.

“I hope they don’t end up regretting their decision.”

For a while, their decision looked good. While Hill was emerging as a human blur and one of the most exciting players anyone has ever seen, he also by all accounts was conducting himself with exemplary behavior.

When his three-year deferred sentence ended last August and Hill had completed all of his court-mandated requirements, Hill’s conviction in Payne County, Okla., was expunged. And it was heartening to hear what county assistant DA for domestic violence Debra Vincent said.

“Who’s to say that this wasn’t life-changing in how he looked at that part of his life?” she said in a phone interview at the time.

But Vincent also reminded me of the truth that was always lurking: She warned that the work he’d done to date was no guarantee of future behavior. Because his progress could only be measured over a lifetime, not a few years — just as concerned local domestic abuse experts warned when the Chiefs drafted Hill and trumpeted their vetting and urged us all to trust them.

And that’s the other favor this sad situation has done for the Chiefs. It stands as a statement that they need to change their attitude about this, not to mention their system.

When they said “trust us” and implied they knew better than the experts and said they had thoroughly vetted him and that they have their own in-house ways of working with these situations, they didn’t know what they didn’t know.

Now they need to own up to that and revisit how they do this part of the business, perhaps with a dose of transparency involved, lest they continue to go down this path and have reason to regret it again.

Vahe Gregorian has been a sports columnist for The Kansas City Star since 2013 after 25 years at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. He has covered a wide spectrum of sports, including 10 Olympics. Vahe was an English major at the University of Pennsylvania and earned his master’s degree at Mizzou.
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BleedingRed 10:38 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I'm not sure where this "she set him up" stuff came from. She covered for him, repeatedly, during the investigation. It seems pretty obvious to me that she TRIED to do exactly the opposite
Recording conversations........
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New World Order 10:38 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
He was potentially going to split or has a girl on the side. I believe they had separated when the first report was made.

She's another level crazy...so I'm not to try to even understand the thought process.

Maybe in one of their heated arguments he told her he wasn't going to give her shit...and she was pregnant with his twins. They arent married..

Anyway, I'm done. Talking about their toxic relationship is making me depressed.
Not disagreeing, but so is he.
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DrunkBassGuitar 10:40 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
She didn't set him up. If that were the case, she would have just given the recording to the DA. She tried to forget the recording existed, repeatedly covered for him in statements to law enforcement, and then got caught with her pants down when somebody decided they couldn't sit on her leverage any longer.
She was in on covering up what happened. She's a piece of shit that put a price on her children's wellbeing. Shes as despicable as he is.

Neither of them have any reason raising kids
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htismaqe 10:41 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Recording conversations........
She recorded the conversation as leverage in case their handshake agreement fell apart.

It's called a contingency plan for a reason.

Her "setting him up" the way BlackOp outlined doesn't make any sense at all. If the only goal was to screw Tyreek Hill, she could have done that months ago.
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htismaqe 10:42 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar:
She was in on covering up what happened. She's a piece of shit that put a price on her children's wellbeing. Shes as despicable as he is.

Neither of them have any reason raising kids
I don't disagree with you.

I'm merely explaining why BlackOp's theory as to her motives doesn't hold any water.
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kcpasco 10:42 AM 04-26-2019
A lot of pieces of shit in pro sports. But apparently we end up with all the dumb ones. Hill and his gf are dumb pieces of shit.
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St. Patty's Fire 10:43 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by SuperChief:
They totally whitewashed it. It was creepy. Wingo kept going on and on about it, then they went away from him and I thought to myself "Recalibrate, dude" and then it goes back to Wingo and he DID EXACTLY THAT. Weird.
It was one of the most uncomfortable things I’ve seen on Tv in a longggggg time. That shit was off.
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DrunkBassGuitar 10:44 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
I don't disagree with you.

I'm merely explaining why BlackOp's theory as to her motives doesn't hold any water.
Oh yeah I agree with you. Who knows what motivation she had for recording it, I can only speculate on that.

If it was an attempt at blackmail then it was an incredibly stupid one since she admitted lying to DFS in their investigation.
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chiefzilla1501 10:45 AM 04-26-2019
In a reach to find any positive, it's that if Tyreek had any issues that might second guess a blockbuster deal, it's good that we found out before the big contract. Imagine if this situation blew up after the long-term deal, which seemed like it was literally months if not weeks away.
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Setsuna 10:45 AM 04-26-2019
She didn't abort her children. She's not all bad. Yall are just butt hurt it's affecting your happiness about a football team.
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DrunkBassGuitar 10:46 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by kcpasco:
A lot of pieces of shit in pro sports. But apparently we end up with all the dumb ones. Hill and his gf are dumb pieces of shit.
If it's any consolation we'll be talking about shit going down with the browns next year.

Dorsey knows how to pick them.
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Shields68 10:47 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by synthesis2:
Look I get the morality of all of this and that the right thing to do is to let him go. I get it but I felt this way about hunt and feel the same about hill. I’m only for letting him go if he can never play in the nfl again. Otherwise find a team who will trade for him and then move on. The browns can probably trade hunt for a second round pick after this year and most people have moved on and the memory has faded as to what he did.

Bottom line and I don’t care how bad it is, cut if he’s out of the league for good , trade if he’s allowed to stay in.
Well the never play in the NFL again is out the window. There is nothing on the tape that will make that happen. It seems to be the same stuff AP did and we know how that ends. I mean he denied the serious stuff of breaking the kids arm. He admits to the belt and stomach discipline. He threatens her but that can not lead to a more harsh punishment then if he actually kicked her like Hunt.
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BlackOp 10:50 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:

Her "setting him up" the way BlackOp outlined doesn't make any sense at all. If the only goal was to screw Tyreek Hill, she could have done that months ago.
Dude..they had just cleared with "no charges". She cost him his job the very next day...in the biggest "dick" move I can remember.

My guess is they are no longer a couple...which is a positive start.
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htismaqe 10:51 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Dude..they had just cleared with "no charges". She cost him his job the very next day...in the biggest "dick" move I can remember.
She didn't disclose the audio. SHE didn't do anything the very next day.
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kcpasco 10:54 AM 04-26-2019
If she gave that audio to a friend thinking she wouldn’t be sold out. Holy shit, she’s the Ned Stark of football girlfriends. Dumb as hell.
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