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Eleazar 09:58 PM 04-25-2019
If the Chiefs care about honor and decency, Tyreek Hill can’t be part of this team

BY VAHE GREGORIAN
April 25, 2019 10:31 PM,
Updated 20 minutes ago

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...229705219.html


The instantly infamous audio clip of Tyreek Hill and Crystal Espinal that KCTV-5 aired on Thursday night stood for many things at once.

It was a lens onto a chilling side of Hill, whose response to being told their 3-year-old son is terrified of him was, “You need to be terrified of me, too, bitch.” It was an appalling glimpse at what several sources have told The Star is a toxic relationship.

And her disturbing reference to covering for him with authorities (“I rode for you,” as she put it) was a window into the sorts of obstacles to which Johnson County district attorney Steve Howe seemed to be alluding on Thursday. That’s when he said a crime had been committed when it came their son, who The Star reported had suffered a broken arm among other injuries, but suggested he couldn’t bring charges because the couple had conspired to stonewall a month-long investigation.

Perhaps most of all, the excerpt from a recording Espinal reportedly made while the couple was walking in the Dubai International Airport also was a moment of tangible clarity and, in fact, a favor to the Chiefs.

Unless they are morally bankrupt, it’s easy now.

If they care about what they stand for, if they care about the community, if they care about victims of abuse and their families who already had to be conflicted watching this previously convicted man cavort on the field, Hill can’t be part of this team.

It’s that simple: If they care about honor and decency, Hill can’t be part of this team.

Even after Howe’s extraordinary news conference, there was scant room for equivocation or rationalization about Hill unless they were bent on denial or creating smokescreens around the real issue.

Which they could well have been, given that Hill is their second-most dynamic offensive player behind Patrick Mahomes and arguably fundamental to their ambitions of playing in the Super Bowl for the first time in half a century.

Sure, the Chiefs are in business to compete, not be a pillar of virtue. Those worlds can collide, and it can be complicated. Or as reader Dan Curry eloquently put it in an email on Thursday: “We want them to be a beacon of honor, but they’re also a business where that beacon shines on winning from the thousands of fans who follow them.”

But the spotlight now is on what looms as a trend for this franchise, which cut running back Kareem Hunt last fall only after video surfaced of him knocking over and shoving a woman months before and emphasized it was for lying.

Earlier this week, the Chiefs traded for Seattle defensive end Frank Clark, who was involved in a domestic violence incident in 2014 that led to him being dismissed from the Michigan football team.

Sure, it’s hard to have a one-size-fits-all policy. And we can’t be so cynical that we don’t believe in second chances, can we?

Just the same, this is a franchise that should feel more duty-bound than most to be sensitive to domestic violence in the wake of the 2012 murder of Kasandra Perkins by linebacker Jovan Belcher, who then killed himself in the parking lot outside the Chiefs’ training facility.

When the Chiefs drafted Hill in 2016, a few months after he pleaded guilty to domestic assault and battery by strangulation of the then-pregnant Espinal, I touched base with Perkins’ mother, Becky Gonzalez.

“I heard the story: It’s disheartening to see another case of money over morals,” Becky Gonzalez, the grandmother to orphaned baby Zoey, said via text message. “They (the NFL) do whatever damage control is necessary at the time to appease (the) public but never take a stance.

“I hope they don’t end up regretting their decision.”

For a while, their decision looked good. While Hill was emerging as a human blur and one of the most exciting players anyone has ever seen, he also by all accounts was conducting himself with exemplary behavior.

When his three-year deferred sentence ended last August and Hill had completed all of his court-mandated requirements, Hill’s conviction in Payne County, Okla., was expunged. And it was heartening to hear what county assistant DA for domestic violence Debra Vincent said.

“Who’s to say that this wasn’t life-changing in how he looked at that part of his life?” she said in a phone interview at the time.

But Vincent also reminded me of the truth that was always lurking: She warned that the work he’d done to date was no guarantee of future behavior. Because his progress could only be measured over a lifetime, not a few years — just as concerned local domestic abuse experts warned when the Chiefs drafted Hill and trumpeted their vetting and urged us all to trust them.

And that’s the other favor this sad situation has done for the Chiefs. It stands as a statement that they need to change their attitude about this, not to mention their system.

When they said “trust us” and implied they knew better than the experts and said they had thoroughly vetted him and that they have their own in-house ways of working with these situations, they didn’t know what they didn’t know.

Now they need to own up to that and revisit how they do this part of the business, perhaps with a dose of transparency involved, lest they continue to go down this path and have reason to regret it again.

Vahe Gregorian has been a sports columnist for The Kansas City Star since 2013 after 25 years at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. He has covered a wide spectrum of sports, including 10 Olympics. Vahe was an English major at the University of Pennsylvania and earned his master’s degree at Mizzou.
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kcpasco 10:21 AM 04-26-2019
If a national hack like Stephen Asshole wants him gone then I than I hope we keep him.
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Mulliganman 10:23 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Maybe a league policy in which if you have two violent offenses in college you're ineligible for the NFL.

If you have one, you can be drafted, but should a second violation occur, you're out. Lifetime ban.

None in college, but two in the NFL? you're out.

If all those millions and all that glory doesn't matter enough to you to keep your nose clean, then **** off.

It's a privilege to be a part of something like the NFL, not a right. You can't sell this as family entertainment with community ties with woman battererse and child abusers in uniform.
I think this would be a good start. Even though it can be hard to imagine how someone could do something like these things even once, everyone deserves a second chance.
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SuperChief 10:25 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
They don't. No team does.

The Titans took a guy that wailed on a woman in the first round and ESPN immediately started to whitewash it. Teams do not care.
They totally whitewashed it. It was creepy. Wingo kept going on and on about it, then they went away from him and I thought to myself "Recalibrate, dude" and then it goes back to Wingo and he DID EXACTLY THAT. Weird.
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BlackOp 10:26 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by Shields68:
You would think that even if he splits, the more he makes = more child support she gets. It seems from the tape she rode for Tyreke and worried about the money then the kids. Maybe she was looking for a bigger payday then just child support.
Who knows...I'm over it.

If those two want to sabotage each others lives, I no longer care. It takes two to make steaming pile of shit like this...they created this media drama, they can live with it.

They are both dumb as a pile of rocks...actually dumber and will potentially end up with nothing. Oh..the ironies of life.
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TwistedChief 10:26 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by Mulliganman:
But, does it really have to be that complicated to enforce? Anything with any type of legal convictions or evidence of wrongdoing should count toward the policy and be an easy ban on second offenses even if it weren’t the same type of crime. Either the NFL is serious about protecting the brand or it’s not.
Don't you think that the NFLPA might have a problem with that?
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synthesis2 10:27 AM 04-26-2019
Look I get the morality of all of this and that the right thing to do is to let him go. I get it but I felt this way about hunt and feel the same about hill. I’m only for letting him go if he can never play in the nfl again. Otherwise find a team who will trade for him and then move on. The browns can probably trade hunt for a second round pick after this year and most people have moved on and the memory has faded as to what he did.

Bottom line and I don’t care how bad it is, cut if he’s out of the league for good , trade if he’s allowed to stay in.
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BlackOp 10:27 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by SuperChief:
They totally whitewashed it. It was creepy. Wingo kept going on and on about it, then they went away from him and I thought to myself "Recalibrate, dude" and then it goes back to Wingo and he DID EXACTLY THAT. Weird.
And people will forget in a week...NFL teams know this.
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htismaqe 10:28 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Don't you think that the NFLPA might have a problem with that?
They probably will but so far, they'e been rendered pretty much toothless when it comes to behavioral issues. Goodell has been given pretty broad latitude, including a key court ruling.
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chiefzilla1501 10:29 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Well...we all know now that Crystal doesn't love Tyreek and that the relationship is toxic. It's likely been this way since college. She's hot and manipulative and he's young and naive.

He needs to get the **** away from her and her family. I think his life will improve dramatically.

When the first police report was rejected...someone sent a copy to TMZ. After setting him up then sending the recording to KCTV5...its pretty obvious she was at least part of this.

She is pregnant with twins and sabotaged him to the news. Why would someone do this...my guess is Hill was going to split once he got paid. This has always been the underlying motive from the start. They had just cleared charges and were in the clear. Now he is forced to stick around as he has no job...for now.

Hopefully the Chiefs see this destructive cycle...and help to get him out of it. If they dont...another team will.

A horrible woman can destroy your life...and she knew his past was public chip to be played. The covert recording was her last ditch move....Black mailing him.

If someone burned like she just did...I would never be within 1000 feet of them again. I would have a 3rd party negotiate visitation with my children.
I guess I'm confused about why one would ruin someone's career right before a huge payday in order to collect money. Wouldn't it make more sense to wait for the contract, then make these accusations? Or just use that as even greater bribery to get child support? Maybe she had other motives to bring him down, but money doesn't seem to add up.
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BlackOp 10:34 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I guess I'm confused about why one would ruin someone's career right before a huge payday in order to collect money. Wouldn't it make more sense to wait for the contract, then make these accusations? Or just use that as even greater bribery to get child support? Maybe she had other motives to bring him down, but money doesn't seem to add up.
He was potentially going to split or has a girl on the side. I believe they had separated when the first report was made. It was sent out the very DAY KC announced their intentions of extending him. That was deliberate.

She's another level crazy...so I'm not going to try to even understand the thought process.

Maybe in one of their heated arguments he told her he wasn't going to give her shit...and she was pregnant with his twins. They arent married..

Anyway, I'm done. Talking about their toxic relationship is making me depressed.

Dropping that recording, where she intentionally set him up, to news is straight up insane.
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htismaqe 10:34 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I guess I'm confused about why one would ruin someone's career right before a huge payday in order to collect money. Wouldn't it make more sense to wait for the contract, then make these accusations? Or just use that as even greater bribery to get child support? Maybe she had other motives to bring him down, but money doesn't seem to add up.
I'm not sure where this "she set him up" stuff came from. She covered for him, repeatedly, during the investigation. It seems pretty obvious to me that she TRIED to do exactly the opposite - cover it up in order to get his paycheck. It technically wasn't her that started this, it was a concerned bystander in their inner circle that decided they couldn't let it slide.

She tried to help him and herself stay out of trouble, in order to get paid, while simultaneously double-crossing him to protect herself in case things with him went south. She was trying to play both sides, including not only making but SENDING the recording to someone.

I guess it's just easier to shift blame than to accept reality.
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chiefzilla1501 10:35 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
They probably will but so far, they'e been rendered pretty much toothless when it comes to behavioral issues. Goodell has been given pretty broad latitude, including a key court ruling.
It wouldn't surprise me if Goodell threw the hammer at Hill. It was a touchy situation with Kareem Hunt because the NFL knows they fucked up. I think the NFL knows damn well they owe KC a solid. I imagine Goodell also knows that with the optics of this and without having to damage control their own mistakes, they have pretty free reign to drop the hammer. Of course it's pending details of the investigation, but the way it's going, it's hard to imagine the penalty won't be very harsh.

And I still believe Ray Rice and Greg Hardy were blackballed. Much as the NFL has a history of giving troubled players second and third chances, I do think there are plenty of instances where owners put the shield over their own self interests.
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Mulliganman 10:35 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Don't you think that the NFLPA might have a problem with that?
They may. But as pointed out, there has already been a court case side with Goodell.
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New World Order 10:36 AM 04-26-2019
Banning him from the NFL may be a good thing for Tyreek.

It's not like all of these shots to the head are helping him...
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htismaqe 10:36 AM 04-26-2019
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
He was going to split or has a girl on the side. I believe they had separated when the first report was made.

She's another level crazy...so I'm not to try to even understand the thought process.

Maybe in one of their heated arguments he told her he wasn't going to give her shit..
She didn't set him up. If that were the case, she would have just given the recording to the DA. She tried to forget the recording existed, repeatedly covered for him in statements to law enforcement, and then got caught with her pants down when somebody decided they couldn't sit on her leverage any longer.
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