Originally Posted by Molitoth:
Finally listened to the audio.
Here some of my takes:
*I think that the breaking of the arm was an accident. I honestly don't think Tyreek meant to break an arm, and I think he didn't think about how fragile a 3 year old's arm bone is
They’re actually more difficult to break, their bones are more flexible or “bendy. It takes quite a bit of force to break a child’s arm. [Reply]
Unfortunately, this seems like the result of the breakdown of the family in society. Broken families create broken children who grow up to be broken adults. Many of these people have the behavior modeled for them and have no idea how to deal with anger and frustration.
Nice job our colleges are doing with simply teaching them anything other than they are valuable only for their physical ability. [Reply]
Originally Posted by crayzkirk:
Unfortunately, this seems like the result of the breakdown of the family in society. Broken families create broken children who grow up to be broken adults. Many of these people have the behavior modeled for them and have no idea how to deal with anger and frustration.
Nice job our colleges are doing with simply teaching them anything other than they are valuable only for their physical ability.
Colleges do nothing but promote statism. The breakdown of family values and having women married to the government empowers the state and helps them control the masses. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
It's pretty apparent she was trying to set him up for blackmail or whatever, but what he said was pretty disgusting.
I don't care if a parent spanks their kids. I do when it's appropriate. Sometimes kids throwing tantrums hurt themselves....I think they call it nurse maid elbow that happens when kids drop and flail when you're hanging onto their arm. Shit happens sometimes....I'm not saying he did or didn't do something.
Given his background, the most disturbing part was telling her she should be terrified of him. Can't defend that.
I'm not educated about your second paragraph, but I agree with your first and third. She was clearly setting him up in case she needed ammo for something. Whether he's guilty or not, that much is clear. And WTF on that 'terrified' statement. That's the equivalent of the Kareem Hunt foot shove at the end of the video. You can still optimistically stretch to identify a charitable scenario until that happens, and then poof - no chance.
Clearly these are two people who should not be together, and they should not have made kids. It's too late on the second part. On the first part, if Tyreek ever sees or talks to the woman again then he's a total writeoff for stupidity. But I kind of suspect that he would just find a new version of her anyway. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Molitoth:
Finally listened to the audio.
Here some of my takes:
*I think Reek is immature as a parent, and has a toxic relationship with his girl. I'd say they need to give up on that immediately. It's to the point of no return.
Absolutely agree 100%
*I think that the breaking of the arm was an accident. I honestly don't think Tyreek meant to break an arm, and I think he didn't think about how fragile a 3 year old's arm bone is.
I don't think he intentionally did it either and unfortunately I don't think we will ever know the truth here.
*Tyreek obviously is not PUNCHING the kid in the chest with any harmful force. I think this line was taken way out of context. What we imagine when we listen to that line, and the forced used in say a real life video would probably put that more into perspective of NOT abusive, just immature and something counseling or parenting guidance could fix.
Agree Totally
*Personally, I would never use a belt on my kids to establish punishment, but I understand why someone WOULD considering this seems a standard normal practice in households from the generations before. I got the belt a few times, and NEVER thought to run and tattle claiming "abuse". I chalked it up to being a little shithead and learning my lesson.
*I don't see Tyreek as this ****ing horrible person that needs crucified. If this is the case, then MANY planeteers parents should have lost their jobs, and been publicly shamed any time they implemented a belt for your punishment.
He needs suspended, and put in parenting/counseling help ASAP.
Let him come back to Football next season, but This is all fixable.
If the Chiefs don't do it, some other team is going to do it and it's going to come back to bite the football team.
I never used a belt on my boy. He got a couple spankings and then at like 9 he would just stay silent and looked at me like I was a total dick. That's when I started taking things he cared about instead. It actually works better. I hate spanking it actually hurts me. I guess I'm a puss.
I think this is going to be a pretty short suspension if this is all the information. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
Your choice to live and breathe.
Just curious: about how long is your menstruation going to last in terms of days? I'm talking about the heavy flow since you're always dripping in some way, shape, or form.
We'd just like to know when the raging red river might be coming to a halt. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Donger:
He kind of sounds like a guy who just wants his woman to shut up.
Honestly, that's EXACTLY what I get from that tape on the first listen. And I'm not going to listen to it over and over because there's really no need to "scrutinize the nuances" because there ARE NONE.
Think about it Donger; you have a unique and personal way of communicating with your significant other that is based on time spent together, familiarity, cultural background, and the intimacy that you've established over X amount of years together.
And while you and I as outsiders could listen to that recording and come away thinking that Tyreek Hill is threatening his girlfriend, he does not for even ONE moment sound like a man who has lost control or is raging. In fact, his demeanor is about 100 times more calm than the current collection of CP harpies who are calling for his head.
AND, since we are not privy to the beginning of this conversation, or the whole call in its entirety, WE HAVE NO FUCKING CONTEXT IN WHICH TO PLACE THAT STATEMENT. And it disturbs the FUCK out of me that knowing this, and having been through the Hunt incident, that we STILL have a gaggle of knee-jerk, emotional man-children on this forum who having NO investigative experience of their own to speak of, have already closed the case on this man!
Well, I'm not doing that. Unlike the Chiefs and the majority of this cursed fan base, I learned my lesson with Kareem Hunt. I was a knee-jerk idiot with him, but I will not be so with Tyreek.
We have an audio tape with no context and a DA who can't put a case together.
Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY:
Colleges do nothing but promote statism. The breakdown of family values and having women married to the government empowers the state and helps them control the masses.
wow. what a completely fucking stupid take. [Reply]
