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Nzoner's Game Room>Deshaun Watson is not a top 10 QB
dlphg9 02:09 AM 10-27-2020
Deshaun Watson is constantly getting praised as one of the best young QBs. Hell before the season people were saying he was 2nd best behind Mahomes. I'm here to tell you that he's not even in the top 10.

Deshaun Watson did have a bad GM in B.O.B, but he wasn't that bad as a coach. He always had the Texans respectable, but what he did to that franchise as a GM is senile. That doesn't mean he has to be the scape goat for every time Watson makes a mistake or can't close out a game. Watson was one of/if not the main reason for the playoff loss to the Chiefs. No elite QB is going to allow an opponent to run away with a game after being up 24-0. Another scape goat Watson has is his O line. He is terrible in the pocket and is the main reason for his high sack rate.

He has had success in his past seasons and it seems to me that a lot of that success was due to DeAndre Hopkins ability to catch everything that was anywhere close to him. He made that team so much better and was more important than Watson. Just look at this year what has happened in Houston. Hopkins got traded and the team literally fell apart and Watson has been absolute trash. Now how is he trash when he's on pace for 4800 yards and 34 TDs? He's a god damn garbage time all star, but he struts around like he's playing like an all pro and that his team is trash.

He has sucked shit in the 1st quarter all year and is one of the main reasons why his team is always playing from behind. In the 1st quarter of games this year he is

27/46, 58.7% comp, 285 yards, 1 TD, 13 1st down passes. That's in 7 fucking games! Almost half a season and he's managed 1 passing TD and a measly 285 yds in the first quarter. Compare that to his 4th quarter stats when he can just throw it against a prevent defense when his team is down double digits. 50/74, 67.5% comp, 685 yds, 7 TDs, 2 Ints. These numbers would be elite and he'd be considered clutch if they'd would have won more than one game.

This is the score of all of his games this year going into the 4th quarter and a little of what transpires

KC - 24 - 7

Balt - 23 - 10

Pit - 20 - 21
Houston was up, but Watson threw an int during an 8 play 42 yd drive at the beginning of the 4th quarter and Pitt capitalized and scored the go ahead TD right after that. Watson gets the ball back down a TD, but he takes one of his patented sacks and goes 3 and out and never sees the ball again. With how great he's been in the 4th quarter this year and how elite he is you'd expect more than 45 yds and an int in the 4th, but he choked the game away.

Min - 24 - 16
Deshaun had a chance to tie the game, but couldn't punch it in when they had the ball with around a minute left 2nd down and 1 yard to go from the Minnesota 1. David Johnson tries to run it in and gets stuffed. Then on 3rd down Watson is running an option and gets scared of a big hit, so he tosses it to David and David doesn't catch it, but he recovers the fumble and it's a 4 yard loss. 4th and 5 gives Watson a chance to redeem himself, but he thinks DeAndre Hopkins is out there running a route and will bail out his shitty overthrown fade route. Not DeAndre does his best, but he can't overcome Watson's shit ball.

Jax - Houston's only win!

Ten -
Deshaun tries really hard, but for some dumb shit reason the Texans go up 7 with 1:53 left in the game and Romeo oh Romeo says "Hey Mr Clutch, go out there and get us 2 points, so this game is over" and Deshaun replies "no probs Romeo O'Brien, I mean Bill, I got this", but Mr. Clutch ain't so clutch and two point conv fails. Ten scores a TD, makes XP, gets ball in OT and drives down for a win.

GB - 28 - 7, but Deshaun tears that prevent up in the 4th and racks up those garbage time numbers to the tune of 100 yards and a TD. 72 and the TD of those yards came in one drive when it really mattered down 35 to 14 with 3:40 left in the game a 2 minute drive to make it a 2 score game. Real nail biter.

Deshaun fucking sucks. He ain't shit. He got paid and will continually get talked as if he's some elite QB on a team devoid of talent because B.O.B fucked the franchise. Watson is gonna hit free agency in a few years and get another huge deal because it's not his fault the team never gets above 8-8 again. He will be shitting the bed in the first year of his next deal and everyone will be wondering why Bill O' Brien and his offensive line are still preventing him from winning a game.

Eat shit DeBerg
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lcarus 09:52 PM 11-27-2020
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
The narrative that Watson is a guy who gets all his yards during garbage time is something conjured up by Chiefs fans after we first faced him in 2017. And at that point, it was fair.

It’s pretty clear since then he’s done a lot more than that though. And if he were our starter, I’d respect the hell out of his game.
Yeah the guy is good. No doubt about it at this point. Let's face it. If he were KC's starting QB he'd be even better. Mahomes is a unicorn and nobody else is as good but Reid and this offense is miles ahead of the situation in Houston.
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bobhill 10:10 PM 11-27-2020
Hes so good , The texans are releasing Kenny stills
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ChiefsCountry 01:09 AM 11-28-2020
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
The narrative that Watson is a guy who gets all his yards during garbage time is something conjured up by Chiefs fans after we first faced him in 2017. And at that point, it was fair.

It’s pretty clear since then he’s done a lot more than that though. And if he were our starter, I’d respect the hell out of his game.
The best analogy would be like Bulls fans trashing Reggie Miller or Clyde Drexler back in the 90s. You would be very happy to have either one if you didn't have the GOAT on your team. That's essential Chiefs fans with Watson. He is better than any QB in Chiefs history expect Mahomes and Dawson. Montana is a toss up but he was done physically.
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Halfcan 02:24 AM 11-28-2020
It is crazy how some Chiefs fans on this board obsess over Watson.

We have Mahomes!
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dlphg9 02:58 AM 11-28-2020
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
It is crazy how some Chiefs fans on this board obsess over Watson.

We have Mahomes!
This board loves loser QBs that don't win big games.
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-King- 07:32 AM 11-28-2020
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
This board loves loser QBs that don't win big games.
God forbid people on a football forum talk about other QBs in the league.

Btw, you made this thread :-).
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-King- 07:34 AM 11-28-2020
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
The best analogy would be like Bulls fans trashing Reggie Miller or Clyde Drexler back in the 90s. You would be very happy to have either one if you didn't have the GOAT on your team. That's essential Chiefs fans with Watson. He is better than any QB in Chiefs history expect Mahomes and Dawson. Montana is a toss up but he was done physically.
For some reason people think it diminishes what Mahomes is to say another qb is really good/elite.

No, watson is a great qb. But Mahomes is on track to be the greatest qb ever. Both things can be true.
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htismaqe 09:38 AM 11-28-2020
Originally Posted by -King-:
For some reason people think it diminishes what Mahomes is to say another qb is really good/elite.

No, watson is a great qb. But Mahomes is on track to be the greatest qb ever. Both things can be true.
In my case, that's absolutely untrue. I have a high standard for QB's, that is true. But I've always been this way. It has nothing to do with Mahomes.
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htismaqe 09:39 AM 11-28-2020
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry:
The best analogy would be like Bulls fans trashing Reggie Miller or Clyde Drexler back in the 90s. You would be very happy to have either one if you didn't have the GOAT on your team. That's essential Chiefs fans with Watson. He is better than any QB in Chiefs history expect Mahomes and Dawson. Montana is a toss up but he was done physically.
No, JFC. That's the kind of hyperbole that starts these fights.
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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 12:22 PM 11-28-2020
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
No, JFC. That's the kind of hyperbole that starts these fights.
Well, to be honest, Watson wouldn't have much competition with the other Chiefs QBs from the past.

Green? I could see the argument go either way.
Livingston?
DeBerg?
Krieg?

Can't speak to Cotton Davidson, he was before my time.


But, compared to Cassel, Palko, Grbac, Gannon, Brokie, Thigpen, Bono, and a host of others that don't even register to me anymore? Yeah, I'd take Watson over all of them.
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RealSNR 12:44 PM 11-28-2020
I'm not going to be gracious about Mahomes.

I'm going to be selfish.

We've got the biggest, most powerful dick cannon the league has ever seen, and I want it to be acknowledged from our opponents. On a weekly basis. They must pay mahomage to our QB or die. Well, I mean... they're going to die anyway. But they should be gracious about it. Just as it was expected that we as Chiefs fans were gracious about getting the chance to be torn to shreds by elite QBs. Like... "Here's Damon Huard. Now go play Peyton Manning. And you better fucking like it! Lose with a smile on your face or else we'll claim you're an unintelligent fanbase who doesn't know anything about football just because you lose games with game managers all the time!"

This is about payback.

So if nice guy Deshaun Watson and his neat little stats he's putting up under Romeo Crennel has to be shit on, then so be it. I'm not going to crown a guy's ass just to crown his ass.

And you better believe that until Trevor Lawrence actually brings it for real, I'm going to shit the fuck on him, too. Oh yes, bitches. It's happening. I am NOT giving that goldilocked fuckface douche any more credit than he deserves. And you know what? If he has initial struggles (or chronic struggles) I'm going to take delight in it. I'm going to point and laugh at him.
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RealSNR 12:48 PM 11-28-2020
I'll say this much, though. I'd rather have Deshaun Watson than Lamar Jackson.

There. Watson gets that much from me. You're welcome, Deshaun.
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loochy 12:53 PM 11-28-2020
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
I'm not going to be gracious about Mahomes.

I'm going to be selfish.

We've got the biggest, most powerful dick cannon the league has ever seen, and I want it to be acknowledged from our opponents. On a weekly basis. They must pay mahomage to our QB or die. Well, I mean... they're going to die anyway. But they should be gracious about it. Just as it was expected that we as Chiefs fans were gracious about getting the chance to be torn to shreds by elite QBs. Like... "Here's Damon Huard. Now go play Peyton Manning. And you better fucking like it! Lose with a smile on your face or else we'll claim you're an unintelligent fanbase who doesn't know anything about football just because you lose games with game managers all the time!"

This is about payback.

So if nice guy Deshaun Watson and his neat little stats he's putting up under Romeo Crennel has to be shit on, then so be it. I'm not going to crown a guy's ass just to crown his ass.

And you better believe that until Trevor Lawrence actually brings it for real, I'm going to shit the fuck on him, too. Oh yes, bitches. It's happening. I am NOT giving that goldilocked fuckface douche any more credit than he deserves. And you know what? If he has initial struggles (or chronic struggles) I'm going to take delight in it. I'm going to point and laugh at him.

This is an awesome post
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MahomesMagic 04:17 PM 11-28-2020
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
I'm not going to be gracious about Mahomes.

I'm going to be selfish.

We've got the biggest, most powerful dick cannon the league has ever seen, and I want it to be acknowledged from our opponents. On a weekly basis. They must pay mahomage to our QB or die. Well, I mean... they're going to die anyway. But they should be gracious about it. Just as it was expected that we as Chiefs fans were gracious about getting the chance to be torn to shreds by elite QBs. Like... "Here's Damon Huard. Now go play Peyton Manning. And you better ****ing like it! Lose with a smile on your face or else we'll claim you're an unintelligent fanbase who doesn't know anything about football just because you lose games with game managers all the time!"

This is about payback.

So if nice guy Deshaun Watson and his neat little stats he's putting up under Romeo Crennel has to be shit on, then so be it. I'm not going to crown a guy's ass just to crown his ass.

And you better believe that until Trevor Lawrence actually brings it for real, I'm going to shit the **** on him, too. Oh yes, bitches. It's happening. I am NOT giving that goldilocked ****face douche any more credit than he deserves. And you know what? If he has initial struggles (or chronic struggles) I'm going to take delight in it. I'm going to point and laugh at him.
The Dinosaur scouts say Lawrence is the best QB prospect of the last decade. So I wholeheartedly agree here.
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RunKC 04:57 PM 11-30-2020
Watson has now lost Hopkins, Stills and Fuller. He only has Coutee and Cooks left

#Texans star WR Will Fuller has been suspended six games for a PED violation. He explains below: pic.twitter.com/C9ddGRDSZ1

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) November 30, 2020

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