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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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Flying High D 03:53 PM 12-11-2018
Reid: Berry, don’t even think of dressing out. You’re to valuable for the regular season. Now, the rest of you less valuables get out there and play as hard as you can.
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007 03:59 PM 12-11-2018
I still feel that as soon as he plays he'll get another injury. We've gotten this far without him. Finish it without him.
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TribalElder 06:33 PM 12-11-2018
Originally Posted by 007:
I still feel that as soon as he plays he'll get another injury. We've gotten this far without him. Finish it without him.
if he gets injured he can rehab a few more seasons and play year 4 or 5 of the contract maybe
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dlphg9 09:52 PM 12-11-2018
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
Play when it matters? This game fucking matters.

And again with the insults. You can infer a lot about someone who can't carry an argument without personal attacks.
Well, considering they haven't played the game yet then you can't really bitch about him not playing. How about you wait until he is ruled out to give us your opinion on the situation. I'm sure people are dying to hear what you have to say, since it hasn't been posted 200 times in this thread.

You don't deserve a civil discussion.
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GloryDayz 09:59 PM 12-11-2018
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Well, considering they haven't played the game yet then you can't really bitch about him not playing. How about you wait until he is ruled out to give us your opinion on the situation. I'm sure people are dying to hear what you have to say, since it hasn't been posted 200 times in this thread.

You don't deserve a civil discussion.
Wow...
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FloridaMan88 10:20 PM 12-11-2018
Originally Posted by In58men:
I wouldn’t play him in rainy conditions.
What if it is raining in Seattle in 12 days, still hold him out?

Is Eric Berry that fragile that he can only return in perfect weather conditions?

JFC.
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GloryDayz 10:25 PM 12-11-2018
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
What if it is raining in Seattle in 12 days, still hold him out?

Is Eric Berry that fragile that he can only return in perfect weather conditions?

JFC.
Like I said, from a beast who could kill Superman with his supernatural workouts to a porcelain doll in under a minute.
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Flying High D 10:30 PM 12-11-2018
#Handle with Care
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CoMoChief 10:31 PM 12-11-2018
Would the Chiefs really trot out Berry, his first game back in 2 seasons, in the most important game of the year? That's an awfully bad time to test his ability.
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GloryDayz 10:42 PM 12-11-2018
Originally Posted by CoMoChief:
Would the Chiefs really trot out Berry, his first game back in 2 seasons, in the most important game of the year? That's an awfully bad time to test his ability.
That might be this week's excuse, but I doubt it, they're all feeling the pressure we're applying.

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Pasta Little Brioni 10:44 PM 12-11-2018
Kcchiefsus is one dumb sumbitch. Dude isn't even supposed to be posting, but is allowed to shit all over the board under a mult...okchiefs. pathetic
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GloryDayz 10:49 PM 12-11-2018
I see SuperCarbMan has survived his latest fight with obesity and is still posting in support of LazyBoy Cheeto eaters.



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Pasta Little Brioni 10:54 PM 12-11-2018
Today, Glory used his ED as an excuse to call in
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TribalElder 11:03 PM 12-11-2018

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BlackOp 11:09 PM 12-11-2018
Originally Posted by Shoes:
Also first pick six of the season for Berry everyone is gonna post how much they love the guy (much like when Tyreek scored his first punt return TD against the Donks).

Book mark this post and you'll see.
I think everyone, here, is a Chiefs fan...of course we all want Berry to play and play well.

KC PR has kind of invented this situation with it's "day-to-day" and "pain management" explanations. This is the NFL and Berry is KC's 2nd most expensive player. Fans are left with the impression he isn't playing because his heel hurts...but is well enough to do these extensive workouts and it's his decision to when he actually plays.

It's a very weird situation as he's been "day to day" for 4 months...and is getting paid like a superstar. Four months is a LONG time for a (non-football related) heel to be too sore to play on.

There is obviously something that the Chiefs are avoiding telling the public about...and being deliberately obtuse.

Did he get surgery on the low down...as some conspiracy theory claims? Is he milking it because his money is guaranteed? Chiefs lack of details has led everyone to speculation.

Did KC PR deliberately post video of Berry with a helmet on doing stretches to qualm restless fans? That was over 3 weeks ago...
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