Originally Posted by KChiefs1:
Every time I run a mock I always end up with Toney at 32.
I definitely can see the Chiefs trading out of the first round if their choices are that slim.
at least in running the mock draft machines, I've been finding that moving back to the low 40's still leaves great options and usually gets you a low 3rd or high 4th in return. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Stryker:
I get it on the Rashod Bateman thing but I was thinking level of competition Toney did this against LSU, Georgia, Mizzou and Alabama. Would be happy with either as a pick but please, take one of them.
I don't see how doing it against Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State, Northwestern, etc is somehow much less accomplished. Not like the Big10 is some slouch conference hahaha. The corners haven't been as good in the Big as the SEC lately but they're still pretty solid.
I wish Bateman had the opportunity to go against Ohio State the past 2 years because that would have been the top litmus test. He did in 2018 but was just getting started.
If there is a champion for Toney it's me, I mocked him months ago, but there are glaring fundamental differences between him and Bateman. Bateman is much more polished as a route runner in my opinion. He's also much bigger. But the big one is he has routinely played the X whereas Toney has primarily operated out of the slot.
If I'm looking for a guy I'd feel confident in plug-and-play, it's going to be Bateman. There are 15 guys like Toney in this draft, none as polished that are ranked below him, but the fact remains you can get a twitched up, joystick type with speed and less size through the 4th and 5th rounds. I've grown to prefer Bateman if he's there. That's the question though, who is going to be there. Huddle Report, who is insanely accurate in projecting rankings, has him at 24 right now and Toney at 31. For reference, they have Marshall at 33. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
I don't see how doing it against Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State, Northwestern, etc is somehow much less accomplished. Not like the Big10 is some slouch conference hahaha. The corners haven't been as good in the Big as the SEC lately but they're still pretty solid.
I wish Bateman had the opportunity to go against Ohio State the past 2 years because that would have been the top litmus test. He did in 2018 but was just getting started.
If there is a champion for Toney it's me, I mocked him months ago, but there are glaring fundamental differences between him and Bateman. Bateman is much more polished as a route runner in my opinion. He's also much bigger. But the big one is he has routinely played the X whereas Toney has primarily operated out of the slot.
If I'm looking for a guy I'd feel confident in plug-and-play, it's going to be Bateman. There are 15 guys like Toney in this draft, none as polished that are ranked below him, but the fact remains you can get a twitched up, joystick type with speed and less size through the 4th and 5th rounds. I've grown to prefer Bateman if he's there. That's the question though, who is going to be there. Huddle Report, who is insanely accurate in projecting rankings, has him at 24 right now and Toney at 31. For reference, they have Marshall at 33.
I agree entirely on the Bateman vs. Toney analysis.
Bateman projects right into the Sammy Watkins role. [Reply]
We don’t need smaller WRs that are fast. These guys aren’t always going to be open. We need guys who can catch contested balls when we need them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
We don’t need smaller WRs that are fast. These guys aren’t always going to be open. We need guys who can catch contested balls when we need them.
All day this
Give me a slightly slower yet much taller WR a round or two later. Having Kelce and another tall target that can fight for the ball is exactly what we need in our receiving corp. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Bateman is an excellent prospect. I like Marshall as well. Either at #32 would be awesome.
Yeah always thought he was better than Tyler Johnson who IMO was a steal for the Bucs in the 4th round I think they both will have very good NFL careers. [Reply]
Give me a slightly slower yet much taller WR a round or two later. Having Kelce and another tall target that can fight for the ball is exactly what we need in our receiving corp.
Should also help with all the jet sweeps and different screens we like to run.......I've been thinking we needed a bigger receiver for a while. Chase Claypool was my draft crush last year. I haven't watched a lot of college football this year so there's not one particular guy I have my eye on for this draft but Terrace Marshall sounds like a guy to take if he's there at 31. [Reply]
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
We don’t need smaller WRs that are fast. These guys aren’t always going to be open. We need guys who can catch contested balls when we need them.
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
We don’t need smaller WRs that are fast. These guys aren’t always going to be open. We need guys who can catch contested balls when we need them.
Going to see cover 2 thrown at us next year. Gotta run the ball. [Reply]