Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Some guys struggle with velocity more than others.
It seems like Robinson may be one of them. That 2-point conversion catch that Hardman made, I don't see any way Robinson brings it in.
I mean if you figure that there are 'kinds' of drops, how would you break 'em up? I'd say technique is one (letting the ball get into your body), focus is one and maybe just flat out velocity is one.
I think Watkins is guilty of focus drops. His technique is typically excellent and he doesn't seem to struggle with heaters. Hill's drops are usually technique where he'll let the ball get into him. With someone like Dropmetrius Harris, you got both - but he didn't seem any less likely to catch it at 100 mph than he did a lob shot.
Robinson, OTOH, seems to have good focus (explains his report on schoolyard plays with Mahomes) and his technique doesn't appear to be causing these. But when he gets a real heater, it seems to just go bouncing off sometimes. I wonder if he has smaller hands or if they're not as 'soft' in letting the fingertips cradle around them (which I guess would still be technique related...)
I dunno - but he's dropping some damn nice throws from Mahomes and it really goes back to about week 10 of last year. If he's got the yips, he needs to get over 'em or see more time on the pine.
Yep. Fair analysis.
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Some guys struggle with velocity more than others.
It seems like Robinson may be one of them. That 2-point conversion catch that Hardman made, I don't see any way Robinson brings it in.
I mean if you figure that there are 'kinds' of drops, how would you break 'em up? I'd say technique is one (letting the ball get into your body), focus is one and maybe just flat out velocity is one.
I think Watkins is guilty of focus drops. His technique is typically excellent and he doesn't seem to struggle with heaters. Hill's drops are usually technique where he'll let the ball get into him. With someone like Dropmetrius Harris, you got both - but he didn't seem any less likely to catch it at 100 mph than he did a lob shot.
Robinson, OTOH, seems to have good focus (explains his report on schoolyard plays with Mahomes) and his technique doesn't appear to be causing these. But when he gets a real heater, it seems to just go bouncing off sometimes. I wonder if he has smaller hands or if they're not as 'soft' in letting the fingertips cradle around them (which I guess would still be technique related...)
I dunno - but he's dropping some damn nice throws from Mahomes and it really goes back to about week 10 of last year. If he's got the yips, he needs to get over 'em or see more time on the pine.
Kinds of Drops
High Complexity Drop: Ball is away from the body, Player is diving, angle/arc of ball is different, etc...
Body-Catch Drop: Passes through the hands and bounces off the chest, Player uses chest like a backboard and waits for the rebound, etc..
Thinking Ahead Drop: Player takes eyes off the ball and begins to run before it's secured, Player is afraid of being hit or "hears footsteps,"
High-Velocity Drop: Ball is coming in hot and player's hands aren't strong enough to secure
Double-Clutch Drop: Player unnecessarily catches the ball twice and slips out of his hands
D-Rob often double-clutches, struggles with velocity at times, and will struggle with high-complexity passes at times. Every now and again he'll body-catch. It's a shame, because he is great at finding soft spots for Patrick to throw to.
Tyreek's rare drops are often high-complexity, body and sometimes thinking ahead.
Kelce's rare drops are thinking ahead.
Sammy's drops are thinking ahead or double clutch.
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Originally Posted by Dante84:
I actually thought that was Hardman when I was watching live.
That's a veteran move by Pringle. It would have been all too easy for him to get grabby and end up setting us back another 10 yards, but he did just enough to give Pat a chance to make a play.
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Robinson is, once again, the most disappointing skill position player on the Chiefs roster.
If blocking and size are important to Reid in this offense, I'd just as soon see them give more snaps to Marcus Kemp because maybe he'll be able to make catches that Robinson consistently drops.
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