Nolan and Zack Snyder, definitely an interesting team. There are already rumors now that Zod is going to be the villain.
I have to say I'm excited that it "appears" they aren't going to go totally out of left field and do something stupid and out of character for Superman. [Reply]
Originally Posted by siberian khatru:
This is EXACTLY right, and something I'm astounded so many critics and online commenters have missed, especially those who compare this to the Donner films.
HE'S NOT SUPES YET.
In fact, near the end, when he shows up with the crashed drone, at that point he seems much more relaxed and confident, and even makes a joke about being from Kansas. There, he seemed a lot more like Christopher Reeve's Supes. But it took a lot of shit to get him there.
Supes or not, he's still the same person. They even push his affection for humanity as a central theme of the movie, but don't ever have him convincingly display it. Totally superficial, just like the rest of the script. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kysirsoze:
Supes or not, he's still the same person. They even push his affection for humanity as a central theme of the movie, but don't ever have him convincingly display it. Totally superficial, just like the rest of the script.
Sucks you didn't like it, ky. I found the movie entertaining as hell. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kysirsoze:
Supes or not, he's still the same person. They even push his affection for humanity as a central theme of the movie, but don't ever have him convincingly display it. Totally superficial, just like the rest of the script.
How exactly was he supposed to convincingly display it? [Reply]
people getting all worked up over the destruction of smallville and Metropolis need to get over it. Nobody cared when New York got demolished in the Avengers. Supes can't ****ing save everyone. Damn, get over it!!!!
also, it was his first damn battle. He probably learned from it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
How exactly was he supposed to convincingly display it?
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One obvious way would be to make any attempt at all to take his superpowered beatdowns away from a populace that was constantly in danger. OR I'll do you one better, rather than take the fight away from civilians, how about don't willfully drag the bad guys to the most populated area around (Main Street Smallville) for the fight in the first place.
Another one, and this was just a plot head-scratcher, Have the military deal with the world machine since all it apparently took was him flying through it to destroy it. I have a hard time believing the entire might of the worlds military couldn't have dealt with that. This would leave Superman to deal with the much more pressing matter of conservatively 10's of thousands of people dying in Metropolis. (Not to mention all the people flying a suicide mission to deliver his escape pod rather than him just doing it himself faster than the speed of sound)
Also, if the argument is he isn't Superman yet, fine. I disagree with that rationale, but fine. Then who IS he? I had no idea by the end of the film. I saw practically no defining traits or genuinely human moments from him (or practically anyone else in the film). He was a cardboard cut out.
Because they didn't know she had a key that would allow her to use it. Why would they?
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Regardless, just because I have you handcuffed and blindfolded, doesnt mean I am going to throw you in a bank vault filled with gold. Was a weak plot thread to get her off the ship
One obvious way would be to make any attempt at all to take his superpowered beatdowns away from a populace that was constantly in danger. OR I'll do you one better, rather than take the fight away from civilians, how about don't willfully drag the bad guys to the most populated area around (Main Street Smallville) for the fight in the first place.
Another one, and this was just a plot head-scratcher, Have the military deal with the world machine since all it apparently took was him flying through it to destroy it. I have a hard time believing the entire might of the worlds military couldn't have dealt with that. This would leave Superman to deal with the much more pressing matter of conservatively 10's of thousands of people dying in Metropolis. (Not to mention all the people flying a suicide mission to deliver his escape pod rather than him just doing it himself faster than the speed of sound)
Also, if the argument is he isn't Superman yet, fine. I disagree with that rationale, but fine. Then who IS he? I had no idea by the end of the film. I saw practically no defining traits or genuinely human moments from him (or practically anyone else in the film). He was a cardboard cut out.
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Wait, so you'd rather have the climax of the movie in the middle of the desert or something? What exactly was he supposed to do? Drag Zod there or something?
Wait, so you'd rather have the climax of the movie in the middle of the desert or something? What exactly was he supposed to do? Drag Zod there or something?
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This. The fight was where Zod deemed it to be. He wanted to make Superman chose. It was stop them or let more people die. Any moment he would've taken away from the fight to save someone hundreds others would have died. Zod's Commander chick even said as much in the movie. "For everyone one you save we will kill hundreds." or something like that.
