The unfortunate truth is that this will be handled very different in 2019 than it would've been in 1970 or 1940. The NFL is a business today, and their first priority is to protect their brand. We've seen that they don't care so much about protecting the sport.
With that in mind, they can't come out and say that the New England franchise is cheating again and six past Super Bowls must be forfeited. It just won't happen. I wouldn't even bank on a severe penalty unless it becomes obvious that the cheating has severely damaged public trust and people are literally abandoning the league as fans. Unfortunately, I see a lot of outrage, but not a lot of financial loss for the league.
I suspect they'll slap them on the wrist and maybe fine them a first-round pick or something, and then they'll try to sweep it under the rug. And Belichick and Kraft will lie low for a season and then start cheating again.
The thing I don't understand is that other teams have to know this, right? Espionage is a two-way street. We won the Battle of Midway because we knew that the Japanese were filming our practices and stuff, so we sent out fake messages and then destroyed them with long bombs when they reacted to our fake signals. Why don't NFL teams feed the spies false signals and then use that to destroy them? Is it just that it's too confusing for their own players? [Reply]
If the NFL had a repeat violator rule like the NCAA has, the Faketriots would get the Death Penalty.
Spygate I, Deflategate and now Spygate II.
Time for Goodell to force the Faketriots to cease operations for a full season, forfeiting all games, a league-wide draft is held for all of their players to be drafted by other teams, Belichick is banned for life and Kraft is forced to sell the team. [Reply]
I always assumed this is the type of shit they were doing
I also believe they had something to do with our equipment snafu regardless of who they try to blame. When is the last time you were allowed to unload your bags off a plane. That story was bullshit too.
You know damn well they were doing this shit, and they set it up so bellicheat could distance himself from the whole thing. Deniability is the key for him.
Patriots are a disgusting franchise, I hope they die a public humiliating death [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
The unfortunate truth is that this will be handled very different in 2019 than it would've been in 1970 or 1940. The NFL is a business today, and their first priority is to protect their brand. We've seen that they don't care so much about protecting the sport.
With that in mind, they can't come out and say that the New England franchise is cheating again and six past Super Bowls must be forfeited. It just won't happen. I wouldn't even bank on a severe penalty unless it becomes obvious that the cheating has severely damaged public trust and people are literally abandoning the league as fans. Unfortunately, I see a lot of outrage, but not a lot of financial loss for the league.
I suspect they'll slap them on the wrist and maybe fine them a first-round pick or something, and then they'll try to sweep it under the rug. And Belichick and Kraft will like low for a season and then start cheating again.
The thing I don't understand is that other teams have to know this, right? Espionage is a two-way street. We won the Battle of Midway because we knew that the Japanese were filming our practices and stuff, so we sent out fake messages and then destroyed them with long bombs when they reacted to our fake signals. Why don't NFL teams feed the spies false signals and then use that to destroy them? Is it just that it's too confusing for their own players?
Peyton Manning claimed that he was paranoid everywhere he walked... the locker rooms, etc. about being bugged. Maybe explains the Haley delusional episode. I've heard paranoid before. I don't know if I've ever seen in my life players and coaches flip the fuck out over being bugged. The problem is, it doesn't sound like just signals. We're talking an approach to cheating that's so systemic it finds ways to figure out what you're faking. If teams for example can't even practice or go through a walkthrough with any degree of privacy, at what point can a team actually prepare a gameplan? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
The unfortunate truth is that this will be handled very different in 2019 than it would've been in 1970 or 1940. The NFL is a business today, and their first priority is to protect their brand. We've seen that they don't care so much about protecting the sport.
With that in mind, they can't come out and say that the New England franchise is cheating again and six past Super Bowls must be forfeited. It just won't happen. I wouldn't even bank on a severe penalty unless it becomes obvious that the cheating has severely damaged public trust and people are literally abandoning the league as fans. Unfortunately, I see a lot of outrage, but not a lot of financial loss for the league.
I suspect they'll slap them on the wrist and maybe fine them a first-round pick or something, and then they'll try to sweep it under the rug. And Belichick and Kraft will lie low for a season and then start cheating again.
The thing I don't understand is that other teams have to know this, right? Espionage is a two-way street. We won the Battle of Midway because we knew that the Japanese were filming our practices and stuff, so we sent out fake messages and then destroyed them with long bombs when they reacted to our fake signals. Why don't NFL teams feed the spies false signals and then use that to destroy them? Is it just that it's too confusing for their own players?
Things feel different this time:
- Cheating is a bigger deal than ever with the Astros thing going on
- Teams seem openly fed up with it. See McDermott, Reid, Taylor recent reactions. I'd imagine other owners are fed up with it too.
- The NFL can't be happy about the way the Pats thumbed their nose at them over Deflategate. Kraft destroyed every last bit of goodwill with Goodell.
- The Pats dynasty is almost ending. Brady is old. Kraft's reputation is torn to shreds.
Also... I don't sense the Jets had much damaging on the Pats during Spygate. The Pats had the most damning evidence which the NFL destroyed. The Bengals may have a silver bullet here. And they... not the Pats or NFL... own it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by notorious:
Man, I will just laugh at any Pats fan that gives me grief. Everything they've accomplished is rotten.
Burn that mother fucker to the ground. They are a joke.
It’s not just giving you grief. The army of brotherfuckers come in here like they’re going to fucking teach us about football.
Like they have any clue how football works outside of cheaterville.
It is beyond reason. You couldn’t make it up if you wanted to.
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
How do you suspend Sean Payton for Bountygate but not at a minimum do the same with Belichick for their third instance of cheating?
Does anyone work ground crew at a major airport? Now that I think about it, the near forfeiture of Sunday’s game doesn’t sound right. Why would the chiefs be responsible for accessing a plane that’s flying on to Newark? There have to be FAA and DHS regs against that, right? [Reply]
If the NFL only does something tame like a forfeit of draft picks or a handful of games suspension for Kraft and not Belichick, you know those ratfuck Patriot assholes will hypnotize themselves into somehow making this about putting a chip on their shoulder.
Edelman will sell t-shirts that say, "We cheated. We're actually not that good" and the entire team will wear them and pretend it's them against the world and that they have something to prove after the NFL "unfairly" (yes, they'll convince themselves it's unfair) punishes them.
The NFL needs to hold nothing back. Belichick gets a year long ban. Or more. If Payton got a year off for bountygate, Belichick needs to get at least a year for being a repeat Spygate offender. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
If the NFL only does something tame like a forfeit of draft picks or a handful of games suspension for Kraft and not Belichick, you know those ratfuck Patriot assholes will hypnotize themselves into somehow making this about putting a chip on their shoulder.
Edelman will sell t-shirts that say, "We cheated. We're actually not that good" and the entire team will wear them and pretend it's them against the world and that they have something to prove after the NFL "unfairly" (yes, they'll convince themselves it's unfair) punishes them.
The NFL needs to hold nothing back. Belichick gets a year long ban. Or more. If Payton got a year off for bountygate, Belichick needs to get at least a year for being a repeat Spygate offender.
If I were Clark, I’d get with Jones and make a move to make Kraft sell the team. [Reply]
If a team has organized efforts to cheat like this, they shouldn’t just lose 1 game, or draft picks...this needs a swift blow. Send a message that this won’t be tolerated in this game.
Ineligibility for the postseason is the only truly worthwhile penalty for a repeat offender.
At this point, NE should be declared ineligible for postseason play this year and next and BB should be banned and not allowed in the HOF Pete Rose style.
Otherwise, cheating is condoned and the only consequence are repeated slaps on the wrist.
Originally Posted by 44yearsandcounting:
Does anyone work ground crew at a major airport? Now that I think about it, the near forfeiture of Sunday’s game doesn’t sound right. Why would the chiefs be responsible for accessing a plane that’s flying on to Newark? There have to be FAA and DHS regs against that, right?
It is extremely peculiar, Mr. 44yearsandcounting.
To be perfectly honest, I've never worked at an airport and I don't play a baggage handler on teevee.
I am confident, however, that it's extremely unusual for a team's equipment to be accidentally forwarded to another state.
Personally, I want to know who the person is that was responsible for unloading the gear. I want to know if that person is a fan of $20 blowjobs and if that person was the beneficiary of a mysterious deposit into his or her bank account on or around Friday the 6th.
