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Yes it's a penalty 117 80.69%
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Nzoner's Game Room>Should they have called this unnecessary roughness
stevieray 11:31 PM 12-08-2019
Definitely necessary.

No penalty.


:-)
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NJChiefsFan 11:31 PM 12-08-2019
If they never called it I would be fine with it not being. But in this league that's a penalty. They always call that.

The one they took away with the lb landing on Mahomes, ok, you can talk me into that one. Those kind they don't get consistent ever. But this they almost always call.
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Imon Yourside 11:32 PM 12-08-2019
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
If they never called it I would be fine with it not being. But in this league that's a penalty. They always call that.

The one they took away with the lb landing on Mahomes, ok, you can talk me into that one. Those kind they don't get consistent ever. But this they almost always call.
Yes especially on the leagues "favored" golden boys.
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Buehler445 12:03 AM 12-09-2019
Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan:
If they never called it I would be fine with it not being. But in this league that's a penalty. They always call that.

The one they took away with the lb landing on Mahomes, ok, you can talk me into that one. Those kind they don't get consistent ever. But this they almost always call.
This is the answer. They always call that shit. Hell a lot of WRs get that call if they're obviously going OOB.
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staylor26 11:32 PM 12-08-2019
If they’re trying to be consistent, then yes that should be called
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TomBarndtsTwin 11:33 PM 12-08-2019
It absolutely would have been called if it was on Tom Brady.

Should it be called? Probably not.
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Imon Yourside 11:35 PM 12-08-2019
Lets be honest if that was Brady they would have thrown a flag AND thrown out the Chiefs defender.
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Pitt Gorilla 11:46 PM 12-08-2019
Originally Posted by Imon Yourside:
Lets be honest if that was Brady they would have thrown a flag AND thrown out the Chiefs defender.
And kicked the defender's mom in the gooch.
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Hammock Parties 11:40 PM 12-08-2019
Mahomes went backward at an awkward angle at high velocity into sideline equipment.

The league has to protect the MVP better.
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Imon Yourside 11:44 PM 12-08-2019
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Mahomes went backward at an awkward angle at high velocity into sideline equipment.

The league has to protect the MVP better.
I keep hearing they are and will yet this happens every game. Hard to believe they want him hurt.
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ghak99 11:50 PM 12-08-2019
I thought it should have been called based on the shove, but I suppose it technically started in bounds.

At the time I was actually more worried about him standing up right in front of that big fucking heater. My smaller versions will melt skin in that range and that thing looks to be much bigger.
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-King- 12:02 AM 12-09-2019
I really hate that the main defense of this being a penalty seems to be "If this had happened to Tom Brady..."

That's not a legitimate basis of what should or shouldn't be a penalty. It's a backwards way of admitting that it shouldn't be a penalty but based on the hypothetical you've made up in your mind, it is.

We all know if that play happened with Tom Brady and they threw a flag we'd all be screaming bullshit and posting gifs of how he was in bounds when he was hit. And rightfully so. It would be a bullshit penalty no matter who was at QB.
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Buehler445 12:04 AM 12-09-2019
Originally Posted by -King-:
I really hate that the main defense of this being a penalty seems to be "If this had happened to Tom Brady..."

That's not a legitimate basis of what should or shouldn't be a penalty. It's a backwards way of admitting that it shouldn't be a penalty but based on the hypothetical you've made up in your mind, it is.

We all know if that play happened with Tom Brady and they threw a flag we'd all be screaming bullshit and posting gifs of how he was in bounds when he was hit. And rightfully so. It would be a bullshit penalty no matter who was at QB.
It's not. Everybody gets that call. If he were headed upfield, no. But he was obviously going OOB. They call that.
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DaFace 12:13 AM 12-09-2019
Originally Posted by -King-:
I really hate that the main defense of this being a penalty seems to be "If this had happened to Tom Brady..."

That's not a legitimate basis of what should or shouldn't be a penalty. It's a backwards way of admitting that it shouldn't be a penalty but based on the hypothetical you've made up in your mind, it is.

We all know if that play happened with Tom Brady and they threw a flag we'd all be screaming bullshit and posting gifs of how he was in bounds when he was hit. And rightfully so. It would be a bullshit penalty no matter who was at QB.
It's not just Brady. That gets called probably 80% of the time on any QB.
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-King- 03:56 AM 12-09-2019
Originally Posted by DaFace:
It's not just Brady. That gets called probably 80% of the time on any QB.
Any examples? I asked this in the other thread and somehow the only example someone posted was the Chris Jones penalty on Brady last year. Don't ask me how it relates to this play because I'm still trying to figure it out.

I've literally never seen it called and people not say it was a bad call. Because it's literally a bad call. It's not a subjective penalty at all. A late hit OOB is a late hit OOB. There's no subjectivity that would allow the ref to throw a flag because the player was heading out of bounds.
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