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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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O.city 03:36 PM 12-19-2020
They’ll likely need to continually change the antigen they’re using the mRNA for as the virus mutates or drifts over time but there are a lot of ways to track and stay ahead of that game.
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dirk digler 03:55 PM 12-19-2020
Great read from Trevor Bedford on the 2 new variants (UK and South Africa)

With #COVID19 vaccine efficacy of ~95%, I'm looking forward to vaccine distribution in 2021 bringing the pandemic under control. However, I'm concerned that we'll see antigenic drift of SARS-CoV-2 and may need to update the strain used in the vaccine with some regularity. 1/18

— Trevor Bedford (@trvrb) December 19, 2020

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O.city 04:02 PM 12-19-2020
Yeah he’s very intelligent with this stuff. Good read.
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dirk digler 04:23 PM 12-19-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Yeah he’s very intelligent with this stuff. Good read.
Yep and sorry I hadn’t read the last page or so and you already echoed a lot what he said.

Sounds like we maybe in store for a recurring vaccine shot. Yuck.
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DaFace 04:30 PM 12-19-2020
FWIW, my cousin is getting plasma with antibodies. Hope that gets him on the right track. Aunt and uncle both feel like shit but seem to be getting better slowly at home.
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petegz28 05:30 PM 12-19-2020
I am backing out on Xmas with half my family. Some people amaze me.

Mom's side my Sister, her Husband and my 2 nephews are coming in along with my niece and her husband. Niece had Covid earlier this month and her husband has tested negative twice since so I am good there.

Dad and Step Mom are staying with me. We usually go out to my Uncle's on Xmas Eve but I am canceling that trip. Why?

2 days before Xmas Eve my Aunt and Uncle are having a party for my Aunt's Dad and her side of the family at her Dad's house. These are Italian families so yeah, nothing small.

Then 2 days later she is wanting to have Xmas Eve as she usually does with with other 2 Aunt's and Uncles, one of which who just had female surgery last week, my Cousins who are coming in from Minnesota, my other Cousin and his fiancé who were just vacationing in Mississippi last week and and my other Cousin who lives in the bars. Plus my Aunt's 90+ year old Mom and Dad from the party 2 days prior.

I just can't do it. I am not worried about me but I have my Dad and Step Mom with me and I hope they don't go and on Xmas my Father In Law and Brother In Law are coming over.

Small groups I can take but I can't see going to a 30+ person gathering especially with the people hosting it were at another 30+ person gathering 2 days prior.
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BigRedChief 06:39 PM 12-19-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
FWIW:

London (CNN)Parts of Britain will go back into lockdown during Christmas after a newly identified strain of Covid-19 proved to spread more quickly than previous strains of the virus.

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Saturday announced a series of stricter coronavirus restrictions, tightening rules around household mixing that were due to be relaxed over Christmas in London and southeast England.

The PM broke the news Saturday that London and the southeast of England, where cases are surging, will go into Tier 4 restrictions, similar to a lockdown, on Sunday.

"The spread is being driven by the new variant of the virus," Johnson said in a hastily called press conference. "It appears to spread more easily and may be up to 70% more transmissable than the earlier strain."
Awww come on 2020. For fuck sakes....:-)
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DaFace 06:40 PM 12-19-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I am backing out on Xmas with half my family. Some people amaze me.

Mom's side my Sister, her Husband and my 2 nephews are coming in along with my niece and her husband. Niece had Covid earlier this month and her husband has tested negative twice since so I am good there.

Dad and Step Mom are staying with me. We usually go out to my Uncle's on Xmas Eve but I am canceling that trip. Why?

2 days before Xmas Eve my Aunt and Uncle are having a party for my Aunt's Dad and her side of the family at her Dad's house. These are Italian families so yeah, nothing small.

Then 2 days later she is wanting to have Xmas Eve as she usually does with with other 2 Aunt's and Uncles, one of which who just had female surgery last week, my Cousins who are coming in from Minnesota, my other Cousin and his fiancé who were just vacationing in Mississippi last week and and my other Cousin who lives in the bars. Plus my Aunt's 90+ year old Mom and Dad from the party 2 days prior.

I just can't do it. I am not worried about me but I have my Dad and Step Mom with me and I hope they don't go and on Xmas my Father In Law and Brother In Law are coming over.

Small groups I can take but I can't see going to a 30+ person gathering especially with the people hosting it were at another 30+ person gathering 2 days prior.
That's an impressively risky roll of the dice for them. Good luck.
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BigRedChief 06:43 PM 12-19-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Yep and sorry I hadn’t read the last page or so and you already echoed a lot what he said.

Sounds like we maybe in store for a recurring vaccine shot. Yuck.
I got a flu shot for the first time in decades this year. I'll get the covid update yearly if thats what it takes to get back to normal or stay normal.
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MahomesMagic 06:45 PM 12-19-2020

Can anyone point me to the evidence that this new variant is “70% more transmissible than the old variant?”

— Carl Heneghan (@carlheneghan) December 19, 2020


I suspect it’s invented. It’s one of around 40,000 variants, typically emerging from error prone replication. It would be funny if it weren’t so serious if it turns out to be an asymptomatic variant: easy to catch & pass on but doesn’t make you ill.
We could call it a vaccine.

— Yardley Yeadon (@MichaelYeadon3) December 20, 2020

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dirk digler 06:46 PM 12-19-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
I am backing out on Xmas with half my family. Some people amaze me.

Mom's side my Sister, her Husband and my 2 nephews are coming in along with my niece and her husband. Niece had Covid earlier this month and her husband has tested negative twice since so I am good there.

Dad and Step Mom are staying with me. We usually go out to my Uncle's on Xmas Eve but I am canceling that trip. Why?

2 days before Xmas Eve my Aunt and Uncle are having a party for my Aunt's Dad and her side of the family at her Dad's house. These are Italian families so yeah, nothing small.

Then 2 days later she is wanting to have Xmas Eve as she usually does with with other 2 Aunt's and Uncles, one of which who just had female surgery last week, my Cousins who are coming in from Minnesota, my other Cousin and his fiancé who were just vacationing in Mississippi last week and and my other Cousin who lives in the bars. Plus my Aunt's 90+ year old Mom and Dad from the party 2 days prior.

I just can't do it. I am not worried about me but I have my Dad and Step Mom with me and I hope they don't go and on Xmas my Father In Law and Brother In Law are coming over.

Small groups I can take but I can't see going to a 30+ person gathering especially with the people hosting it were at another 30+ person gathering 2 days prior.
I am proud of you Pete you are doing the right thing. Hope you can talk your dad in not going either.
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TLO 06:54 PM 12-19-2020
Originally Posted by MahomesMagic:


Yeah, something seems a little off here.
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petegz28 07:15 PM 12-19-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
I am proud of you Pete you are doing the right thing. Hope you can talk your dad in not going either.
Meh, nothing really to be proud of. I can handle my Mom's side, 8 adults, 3 kids, 2 of the adults have already had Covid and one has recently tested negative twice. I think that's fairly safe.

The other side though I just do not get. It's like I told my Wife, it's on thing to go the beach and get in the water knowing sharks live there. It's another to jump out of a boat into water where you can see the sharks swimming around you.
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RunKC 08:22 PM 12-19-2020
About 8 million more doses shipping next week. Amazing!

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...pV_noNSumFxVwg
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AussieChiefsFan 07:10 AM 12-20-2020
Here in Sydney (and the state of NSW in general) we've had zero locally acquired cases for over 2 months now. But..... as happened down in Victoria 6 months ago, a breach in the hotel quarentine system has leaked the virus into the community.

The last few days of cases look like this:

.............
14 Dec - 0
15 Dec - 0
16 Dec - 0
17 Dec - 3
18 Dec - 15
19 Dec - 23
20 Dec - 30
21 Dec - ??


Most of these recent cases are contained to an area called the Northern Beaches.

So the next 7 days will be critical in finding out if the outbreak has been successfully contained to that area or not. 28 of the 30 cases today were just in the Northern Beaches... so fingers crossed.

I really feel for our brothers and sisters in the US. Here in Sydney, we've been cruising since around August and most things have been opened up for a while now.

It's a tough thought to have to go back to how things were before June/July.

At least the vaccine should be around the corner.
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