Two great TE's. When both were at their best, who was better? Again, this isn't about who you would rather have long term. Or necessarily about better career. Someone can have a better career yet not necessarily be better (For example Brady has had a better career than Montana. But Joe was better). [Reply]
But seriously, Gronk was fucking insanely good when healthy, just automatic. Kelce has had his ups and downs, but has been pretty much automatic. Not as good a blocker, but not some pussy who won't block by a long shot. When he finally hangs up the cleats, ask me then. Both are HOFers, and Gronk has a longer resume. We'll see. Right now, it's a slight edge to Gronk. [Reply]
There is no comparison, Gronk is one of if not the best blocking TE in the history of the NFL. He is also one of the best receiving TE's in the history of the NFL. Kelce doesn't even crack the top 5 in NFL history. Try to stay objective, Kelce is not in Gronks class, sorry. Dude got embarrassed in last year's AFC championship game and you want to put him on Gronks level in his prime....lol [Reply]
Originally Posted by MrCasual:
There is no comparison, Gronk is one of if not the best blocking TE in the history of the NFL. He is also one of the best receiving TE's in the history of the NFL. Kelce doesn't even crack the top 5 in NFL history. Try to stay objective, Kelce is not in Gronks class, sorry. Dude got embarrassed in last year's AFC championship game and you want to put him on Gronks level in his prime....lol
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Tony is the greatest TE of all time.
He was also perhaps the biggest fucking asshole towards fans that I've ever seen from a Chiefs player. He wasn't just unwilling to be around them... he was actually a straight up MEAN son of a bitch towards them.
Since he has recently in so many words chosen to be recognized as an Atlanta Falcon in spite of being a Chief for over a decade, I don't really give a shit about him anymore.
Kelce is cooler, better at YAC, and he's more entertaining to watch. He loves this team and the city, and it would take something sudden and monumental for him to one day turn his back on KC like Tony did.
Oh, and fuck Gronk. Nobody cares.
Exact same opinion as me, so thanks for posting this! :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink:
It's a wash at this point.
Gronk a better blocker.
Gronk had better consistent hands.
Kelce more athletic
Kelce better speed
Kelce runs better routes
Both are gamers in the red zone with Gronk having the slight edge only because TB was throwing to him and Kelce had Smith BUT things have changed in KC:-)
Maybe when it is all said and done for Kelce, PM2 will have vaulted Kelce above Gronk and make it into the HOF with better stats.:-)
I agree with most of this. The only thing I disagree on is that Kelce will move ahead of Gronk. The reason is he won't have PMII his entire career. If I have to choose, it's Kelce, hands down.
As to the question is Kelce better than Gonzalez? Take a look at who was throwing to TG in his 1st 4 years and his last 2 in KC. Even if his was a dick to KC fans, you have to admit his stats are pretty impressive. But I still go with Kelce. [Reply]
No offense but only on a Chiefs message board would this be asked. Who is better at thier best? Gronk when healthy was arguably the biggest mismatch in NFL history. His clutch big performances (including playoffs and SBs) are legendary. His blocking was as good if not better as most offensive lineman. His catch radius was as big as it gets - and once he caught it good luck tackling him.
His only downfall was the injuries, Kelce has him on that. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TomB:
"When both were at their best, who was better?"
Answering the question as it's posed: Gronk, period.
Originally Posted by 203Pat:
Kelce is just a slow receiver and a moody bitch. Gronk is the greatest TE who ever lived.
Originally Posted by MrCasual:
There is no comparison, Gronk is one of if not the best blocking TE in the history of the NFL. He is also one of the best receiving TE's in the history of the NFL. Kelce doesn't even crack the top 5 in NFL history. Try to stay objective, Kelce is not in Gronks class, sorry. Dude got embarrassed in last year's AFC championship game and you want to put him on Gronks level in his prime....lol
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Gronk, and I hate saying that but he had more reliable hands, didn't have that mental lapse and drop a routine catch like Travis does.
Rob was a better blocker too
Originally Posted by tyecopeland:
Gronk was a better blocker
Originally Posted by CrookedTrump:
No offense but only on a Chiefs message board would this be asked. Who is better at thier best? Gronk when healthy was arguably the biggest mismatch in NFL history. His clutch big performances (including playoffs and SBs) are legendary. His blocking was as good if not better as most offensive lineman. His catch radius was as big as it gets - and once he caught it good luck tackling him.
His only downfall was the injuries, Kelce has him on that.