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Washington DC and The Holy Land>NYC's $15 Minimum Wage—Now Officially a Disaster
BucEyedPea 07:45 AM 08-13-2019
Real world proof, nothing Loneiguana claimed has materialized—and NEVER will.
New York City’s $15 minimum wage, which began to take effect Dec. 31, 2018, was meant to bolster earnings and quality of life, but for a lot of residents, it’s doing the opposite...

“Many people working in the restaurant industry wanted to work overtime hours, but due to the increase, many restaurants have cut back or totally eliminated any overtime work,” Andrew Riggie, executive director of the New York City Hospitality Alliance, told Fox News. “There’s only so much consumers are willing to pay for a burger or a bowl of pasta.”

Roughly 77 percent of NYC restaurants have slashed employee hours. Thirty-six percent said they had to layoff employees and 90 percent had to increase prices following the minimum wage hike, according to a NYC Hospitality Alliance survey taken just one month after the bill took effect.

Only about 4 percent of survey respondents indicated that none of the above changes took place in their restaurants.

“What it really forces you to do is make sure that nobody works more than 40 hours,” Susannah Koteen, owner of Lido Restaurant in Harlem, told Fox News. “You can only cut back so many people before the service starts to suffer.”

NYC restaurants are taking hits from Cuomo’s push, but Washington doesn’t seem to have received the memo. The House passed the Raise The Wage Act in July, which mandated a nation-wide $15 minimum wage. The bill was later blocked by the Senate.

The bill would have effectively doubled the federal minimum wage of $7.25/hr. There is dismal 6 percent support for a nation-wide $15 wage hike among economists, according to Fox News surveys.

Cuomo’s office did not respond to a request for comment from the Daily Caller News Foundation by the time of publishing.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...disaster-71761

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notorious 10:03 AM 08-13-2019
:-)
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seamonster 10:33 AM 08-13-2019
The reality is that these socialists -- and their $15 hr min wage bullshit -- hate businesses, the middle class and America and would like to see a Venezuela\USSR situation where the government is the only show in town. There's no reason these subversives should be given anymore credibility then some fringe white power nazi.
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Iowanian 10:41 AM 08-13-2019
I was involved in a conversation on this topic yesterday while eating. The general consensus was in agreement that this will result in jobs being cut in service industries, it will lead to more self check-out and at your table order systems at restaurants.

It also doesn't discuss the guaranteed upstream economic impact. When you make $15 the new floor for unskilled, entry level labor, what does that do to the existing base of $15/hr employees? They're going to also want a $7.50 raise. There is no way in hell that Unions will sit quietly at the same pay scales when $15 is the new floor.

One thing I'd like to see would be some actual numbers on people working full time at Min wage. I can't imagine a very large segment of society is working at that wage. If you've been at a job 6months-1yr and are still making min wage, maybe you need to look in the mirror and assess your skills.

In this economy as hard as it is to hire good help and with a plethora of open positions, there is no reason other than poor life choices to be stuck in a min wage job if you're not a student.

All this will do is affect people like my friend with Downs who has had a job at a grocery store for 15 years. Make the min wage $15 and jobs like his will be gone.
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Loneiguana 10:41 AM 08-13-2019
What does actual data say?

NYC Restaurants Thriving At $15 Minimum Wage

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Looking into government data on employment and wages of the New York City restaurant scene, researchers found that higher wages for employees haven’t hurt the industry. In fact, despite warnings from restaurateurs that the $15 minimum wage would ruin business, the city’s restaurants are thriving.

The analysis shows that the New York hospitality sector has “substantially” outpaced private-sector job growth nationwide, especially in Queens, the Bronx, Brooklyn. and Staten Island. The authors noted that full-service restaurants in these parts of the city proliferated three times faster than restaurants Manhattan. When compared to other large cities that did not increase the minimum wage, only three out of 12 charted higher on employment growth in both limited and full-service establishments. These cities were Nashville, Charlotte, and Dallas.
Its almost like anti-worker and anti-middle class conservatives are just corporate bootlickers, eager to carry water any narrative, no matter how false.
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Iowanian 10:44 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Loneiguana:
What does actual data say?

NYC Restaurants Thriving At $15 Minimum Wage



Its almost like anti-worker and anti-middle class conservatives are just corporate bootlickers, eager to carry water any narrative, no matter how false.

Maybe you should start tipping 30% to make sure your server is making a living wage if you're so dedicated to the cause.
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Merde Furieux 10:44 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Loneiguana:
What does actual data say?

NYC Restaurants Thriving At $15 Minimum Wage



Its almost like anti-worker and anti-middle class conservatives are just corporate bootlickers, eager to carry water any narrative, no matter how false.
When was the last time you even had a job? High school?
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Loneiguana 10:47 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
Maybe you should start tipping 30% to make sure your server is making a living wage if you're so dedicated to the cause.
This sure is a stupid comment. Get that triggered from seeing that after a minimum wage increase, NY restaurants still out grew the rest of the country?That's just weird.
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Over Yonder 10:53 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
I was involved in a conversation on this topic yesterday while eating. The general consensus was in agreement that this will result in jobs being cut in service industries, it will lead to more self check-out and at your table order systems at restaurants.

It also doesn't discuss the guaranteed upstream economic impact. When you make $15 the new floor for unskilled, entry level labor, what does that do to the existing base of $15/hr employees? They're going to also want a $7.50 raise. There is no way in hell that Unions will sit quietly at the same pay scales when $15 is the new floor.

One thing I'd like to see would be some actual numbers on people working full time at Min wage. I can't imagine a very large segment of society is working at that wage. If you've been at a job 6months-1yr and are still making min wage, maybe you need to look in the mirror and assess your skills.

In this economy as hard as it is to hire good help and with a plethora of open positions, there is no reason other than poor life choices to be stuck in a min wage job if you're not a student.

All this will do is affect people like my friend with Downs who has had a job at a grocery store for 15 years. Make the min wage $15 and jobs like his will be gone.
Entire post is top floor stuff, but the bolded needs screamed from the mountain tops!! These jobs are not intended to support a person/family long term. If your life plan is to flip burgers at McDonalds for 40 yrs. then retire to Florida and live on the beach, your plan kinda sucks to put it nicely.

These jobs are intended for kids to get some work history and get a few dollars spending money, not pay the mortgage and send their children to college. If you need/want a job that pays more, get some skills.
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Merde Furieux 10:55 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Over Yonder:
Entire post is top floor stuff, but the bolded needs screamed from the mountain tops!! These jobs are not intended to support a person/family long term. If your life plan is to flip burgers at McDonalds for 40 yrs. then retire to Florida and live on the beach, your plan kinda sucks to put it nicely.

These jobs are intended for kids to get some work history and get a few dollars spending money, not pay the mortgage and send their children to college. If you need/want a job that pays more, get some skills.
:-)
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Loneiguana 11:01 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Over Yonder:
Entire post is top floor stuff, but the bolded needs screamed from the mountain tops!! These jobs are not intended to support a person/family long term. If your life plan is to flip burgers at McDonalds for 40 yrs. then retire to Florida and live on the beach, your plan kinda sucks to put it nicely.

These jobs are intended for kids to get some work history and get a few dollars spending money, not pay the mortgage and send their children to college. If you need/want a job that pays more, get some skills.
Its like you guys actively ignore reality. But let's just ignore that fact none of this true. Ignore the fact that places paying minimum wage are hiring young adults, adults, and seniors (Who would rather higher, a teenager who only needs beer money or that 29 year old who needs rent money and is more motivated to show up).

Let's ignore the fact that the minimum wage was established to be a living wage.

Let's just focus on the "it shouldn't be a career." Okay, sure. But the problem isn't someone working a Taco Bell for 4 years. The problem is the job itself is underpaying.

Joe is getting federal help while working at Taco Bell. He goes to community college. Gets some skills. Gets a better job. Guess what? The person who replaces Joe is now the person getting federal help.

It doesn't matter how many people you say "get a better job too", your taxpayer dollars will still go to Taco Bell employees to bring their standard of living above the poverty line. Because the issue is the job and pay, not the people doing it.
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Iowanian 11:05 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Loneiguana:
This sure is a stupid comment. Get that triggered from seeing that after a minimum wage increase, NY restaurants still out grew the rest of the country?That's just weird.

I'm not triggered you dumpy twat.

Your problem is you're trying to grasp reality with a fist full of astroglide.

You're concerned about young people and seniors? Have you noticed that with increased wages things are happening to seniors like no more Walmart greeters?
It's almost like you don't know a fucking thing about business or life outside the room at your mom's house.

I definitely would have paid her $15 to have just farted you out before your egg attached to her colon wall.
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Over Yonder 11:15 AM 08-13-2019
If the pay is not artificially inflated by the government, your senerio doesn't hold up. Joe will get educated and move on. He will then be replaced by another school aged kid or senior looking to fill their spare time. (You are correct about these also being good jobs for seniors)

Working age people will not even fill out the application because it is only a $7.50 hr. job. They will look elsewhere. And IF by chance, these jobs are the only route for that working age person, it's because of shitty life decisions they made. With as little as a GED, I can get a legal adult a job that pays $16/$18 hr. to start TODAY!! And that's here in rural Missouri. I know it has to be possible in bigger areas.

What would screw up this senerio is raising the minimum wage. THEN Joe would possibly be replaced by a working age person. Which in turn kicks a younger/older worker out of a job while leaving that mid level job I just described unfilled.

Raising the minimum is what screws up this whole thing.
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Merde Furieux 11:18 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
I'm not triggered you dumpy twat.

Your problem is you're trying to grasp reality with a fist full of astroglide.

You're concerned about young people and seniors? Have you noticed that with increased wages things are happening to seniors like no more Walmart greeters?
It's almost like you don't know a ****ing thing about business or life outside the room at your mom's house.

I definitely would have paid her $15 to have just farted you out before your egg attached to her colon wall.
:-)
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Over Yonder 11:19 AM 08-13-2019
Oh, and the federal help stuff is a by product of politicians buying votes. That's gonna happen regardless of where the minimum wage gets set at. A politician is ALWAYS gonna try and buy a vote. :-)
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BIG_DADDY 11:26 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
I'm not triggered you dumpy twat.

Your problem is you're trying to grasp reality with a fist full of astroglide.

You're concerned about young people and seniors? Have you noticed that with increased wages things are happening to seniors like no more Walmart greeters?
It's almost like you don't know a ****ing thing about business or life outside the room at your mom's house.

I definitely would have paid her $15 to have just farted you out before your egg attached to her colon wall.
Classic Iowanian. This poster might even be worse than Denise and I didn't think that was even possible.
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