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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Trump's Secretary of Agriculture Jokes About Whining Farmers
NinerDoug 05:49 PM 08-12-2019
:-)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...cid=spartandhp

Trump's Secretary of Agriculture Tells Joke About Whining Farmers to Room Full of Farmers, Gets Boo'd

President Donald Trump's Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue cracked a joke that American farmers "whine" about Trump's trade war with China and got laughs as he intended but also boo's from audience members that seemingly found it insensitive.

"I had a farmer tell me this in Pennsylvania," Perdue said at a farm show in Minnesota last Wednesday, according to Agri-Pulse. "He said, 'What do you call two farmers in a basement?' I said 'I don't know, what do you call them?'"

Perdue said the farmer said: "A whine cellar."


There was laughter but boo's came as some members of the crowd did not find Perdue's joke funny, just two days after China declared it would no longer buy any American agricultural products to hit back at Trump for imposing an additional 10 percent tariff on Chinese goods.

Perdue made the joke at the end of a back-and-forth with farmer Mike Peterson of Northfield, Minnesota. Peterson said that a June Acreage report by the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA)'s National Agricultural Statistics Service was "speculative," which Perdue denied by saying the officials "are professional." Petersen then complained that the data has been released several weeks after farmers were surveyed and joked, "the show American Idol can tabulate how many votes in the course of an episode?"

Trump's tariffs on China have led to farmers filing bankruptcy at never-before-seen rates.

Minnesota Corn Growers Association President Brian Thalmann said farm producers are not "starting to do great again" and that "things are going downhill very quickly."

American Soybean Association member Joel Schreurs expressed concern about export markets with the ongoing trade war and predicted the markets are "just not going to come back in a day or two."

But Perdue stood by Trump's pressure on China and belief that the United States will come out on top in the end.

"China is going to buy where they see the best value, when we get the trade resolution done," Perdue said. "We're working on markets in India, Thailand, Indonesia, and Malaysia to develop other markets."

Farmers in other states have cast similar frustration with the president's trade war.

"It's really, really getting bad out here," longtime North Dakota farmer Bob Kuylen told CNBC on Saturday. "Trump is ruining our markets. No one is buying our product no more, and we have no markets no more."

The USDA did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Newsweek Monday regarding Perdue's joke.
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Reerun_KC 12:56 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Who said, Buehler didn't have a right to voice a beef here? No one.

Who claimed Buehler wasn't hard-working? No one.

I did say he was whining for his colleagues—not necessarily himself, because they were hurting under Trump's tariff war with China.

He's wrong about what constitutes free-trade tho' which he vehemently defended. So I have just as much right to point it out or post my own beef about it.

So you can get bent.
It was a general statement, not specifically addressed to you. But thanks for your concern.
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BucEyedPea 01:01 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush:
Oh well. If you can't make ends meet without a handout, it's time to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and find a new line of work. Maybe pick fruit or something.
WTF?
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Merde Furieux 03:24 PM 08-13-2019
What a stupid thread. You're such a fucking loser, NinerDung
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Fish 03:42 PM 08-13-2019
Not good news for the corn market today...

U.S. Farmers Stung by Tariffs Now Face a $3.5 Billion Corn Loss

The Agriculture Department on Monday said farmers planted a bigger corn area than analysts estimated and pegged crop yields that also exceeded expectations, sparking the biggest rout in futures since 2013. That was a blow to growers who were holding back supplies, hoping a rally that started in May due to delayed sowing would extend through the fall.

The decline represents a potential loss of almost $3.5 billion for U.S. farmers, according to the American Farm Bureau, and is another setback for them after prices fell following the USDA’s previous acreage report, which was widely criticized for containing outdated data.

[...]

“This is a huge disappointment for farmers that have already been struggling with a lot of uncertainty with this corn crop, trade wars and what have you,” said Tanner Ehmke, manager of the research team at CoBank, a $138 billion lender to the agriculture industry. “A lot of people were banking on the opportunity to sell at much higher prices. This report now really brings that into question.”

Crashing corn prices are an additional stress for growers facing huge farm debt, which the USDA estimates will rise 3.9% this year to $427 billion. Last year, farm debt-to-income was at the highest level since 1984.
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Hoover 04:11 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
A lot of farmers are whiners.
Well you have to pay farmers to farm. Then we also have to pay farmers not to farm.

Its a difficult business to be in.
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Hoover 04:14 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Fish:
Not good news for the corn market today...

U.S. Farmers Stung by Tariffs Now Face a $3.5 Billion Corn Loss

The Agriculture Department on Monday said farmers planted a bigger corn area than analysts estimated and pegged crop yields that also exceeded expectations, sparking the biggest rout in futures since 2013. That was a blow to growers who were holding back supplies, hoping a rally that started in May due to delayed sowing would extend through the fall.

The decline represents a potential loss of almost $3.5 billion for U.S. farmers, according to the American Farm Bureau, and is another setback for them after prices fell following the USDA’s previous acreage report, which was widely criticized for containing outdated data.

[...]

“This is a huge disappointment for farmers that have already been struggling with a lot of uncertainty with this corn crop, trade wars and what have you,” said Tanner Ehmke, manager of the research team at CoBank, a $138 billion lender to the agriculture industry. “A lot of people were banking on the opportunity to sell at much higher prices. This report now really brings that into question.”

Crashing corn prices are an additional stress for growers facing huge farm debt, which the USDA estimates will rise 3.9% this year to $427 billion. Last year, farm debt-to-income was at the highest level since 1984.
Meanwhile in Eastern Iowa we have one hell of a crop of weeds growing because farmers couldn't plant before June 1st.

Heres the deal.

Yeah, I get it, the Trump trade war sucks. Makes like uncertain. Shits not easy anymore.

But you know how trade wars end? With GIANT trade deals. I expect to see China and the US make some huge agreement around harvest, about 12 months before the election.

Until then just setback in that 70k pickup and relax.
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stevieray 04:52 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
^Triggered^
^irony^
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NinerDoug 05:08 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by stevieray:
^irony^
^triggered^
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NinerDoug 05:09 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Merde Furieux:
What a stupid thread. You're such a ****ing loser, NinerDung
You seem pretty stupid, Shit Sprayer. What's your IQ? About 60 or so? Maybe 65?
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stevieray 05:11 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
^triggered^
^false narrative^
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Pitt Gorilla 05:17 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by stevieray:
^irony^
How is that irony? What about that was ironic? Serious question.
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NinerDoug 05:19 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by stevieray:
^false narrative^
^outrage^
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BucEyedPea 05:46 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Fish:
Not good news for the corn market today...

U.S. Farmers Stung by Tariffs Now Face a $3.5 Billion Corn Loss

The Agriculture Department on Monday said farmers planted a bigger corn area than analysts estimated and pegged crop yields that also exceeded expectations, sparking the biggest rout in futures since 2013. That was a blow to growers who were holding back supplies, hoping a rally that started in May due to delayed sowing would extend through the fall.

The decline represents a potential loss of almost $3.5 billion for U.S. farmers, according to the American Farm Bureau, and is another setback for them after prices fell following the USDA’s previous acreage report, which was widely criticized for containing outdated data.

[...]

“This is a huge disappointment for farmers that have already been struggling with a lot of uncertainty with this corn crop, trade wars and what have you,” said Tanner Ehmke, manager of the research team at CoBank, a $138 billion lender to the agriculture industry. “A lot of people were banking on the opportunity to sell at much higher prices. This report now really brings that into question.”

Crashing corn prices are an additional stress for growers facing huge farm debt, which the USDA estimates will rise 3.9% this year to $427 billion. Last year, farm debt-to-income was at the highest level since 1984.
Nobody needs their stickin' GMO/Frankenstein corn. The world will be healthier.
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Coyote 06:16 PM 08-13-2019
Yeah volatile grain markets. I contacted most of my corn months ago. Beans, I’m mostly playing the market or will hold back for the future. “Always hold a little something back.” Good military and farming advice. The art is in the particulars and of course being able to do so. Timing. Never borrow $ in farming. Don’t trust Allies in critical operations in war. Kinda the same...

Jack Scoville, PRICE Futures Group, says that it’s a tale of two markets today.
“Corn seeing follow through selling from the USDA reports, now has filled a gap below and still finding selling.* I think it is going to make a big time low here in the next couple of days, once this round of selling is over.* But, an ugly and sad state of affairs and I have real problems with the USDA corn estimate,” Scoville says.
He added, “It is what it is and it will be revised significantly in coming reports, but for now we trade big production and less demand.* Beans are higher on the moves by Trump to foster some communication with the tariff delays and China supposedly interest in U.S. ag again.* It's probably just pork, I can’t imagine why China wants U.S. beans when they can get them cheaper in Brazil.* Specs and funds selling the corn, not sure who is buying the beans, probably specs,” Scoville says.
https://www.agriculture.com/markets/...-report-monday
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stevieray 06:30 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
^outrage^
^deflection^
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