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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Trump's Secretary of Agriculture Jokes About Whining Farmers
NinerDoug 05:49 PM 08-12-2019
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/tr...cid=spartandhp

Trump's Secretary of Agriculture Tells Joke About Whining Farmers to Room Full of Farmers, Gets Boo'd

President Donald Trump's Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue cracked a joke that American farmers "whine" about Trump's trade war with China and got laughs as he intended but also boo's from audience members that seemingly found it insensitive.

"I had a farmer tell me this in Pennsylvania," Perdue said at a farm show in Minnesota last Wednesday, according to Agri-Pulse. "He said, 'What do you call two farmers in a basement?' I said 'I don't know, what do you call them?'"

Perdue said the farmer said: "A whine cellar."


There was laughter but boo's came as some members of the crowd did not find Perdue's joke funny, just two days after China declared it would no longer buy any American agricultural products to hit back at Trump for imposing an additional 10 percent tariff on Chinese goods.

Perdue made the joke at the end of a back-and-forth with farmer Mike Peterson of Northfield, Minnesota. Peterson said that a June Acreage report by the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA)'s National Agricultural Statistics Service was "speculative," which Perdue denied by saying the officials "are professional." Petersen then complained that the data has been released several weeks after farmers were surveyed and joked, "the show American Idol can tabulate how many votes in the course of an episode?"

Trump's tariffs on China have led to farmers filing bankruptcy at never-before-seen rates.

Minnesota Corn Growers Association President Brian Thalmann said farm producers are not "starting to do great again" and that "things are going downhill very quickly."

American Soybean Association member Joel Schreurs expressed concern about export markets with the ongoing trade war and predicted the markets are "just not going to come back in a day or two."

But Perdue stood by Trump's pressure on China and belief that the United States will come out on top in the end.

"China is going to buy where they see the best value, when we get the trade resolution done," Perdue said. "We're working on markets in India, Thailand, Indonesia, and Malaysia to develop other markets."

Farmers in other states have cast similar frustration with the president's trade war.

"It's really, really getting bad out here," longtime North Dakota farmer Bob Kuylen told CNBC on Saturday. "Trump is ruining our markets. No one is buying our product no more, and we have no markets no more."

The USDA did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Newsweek Monday regarding Perdue's joke.
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petegz28 09:38 PM 08-12-2019
Idiotic OP is idiotic
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srvy 09:56 PM 08-12-2019
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
A lot of farmers are whiners.
This

I have uncles cousins and even a aunt that farm. They are never happy about anything it makes family get togethers interesting. Farmers vent but they don't dwell on things. Farmers roll their sleeves up go to work to fix or improve the situation. Yes they crack jokes at their own expense and are the salt of the earth. I imagine they laughed at the ag sec's poke at them.

Ninerdung could learn from farmers to not take everything as insult and grin and bare it. Of course it wont because its a triggered small person.
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GloryDayz 10:02 PM 08-12-2019
I'm outraged.
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Coyote 09:18 AM 08-13-2019
Farmers do whine (complain). It’s cultural. There are 3 categories that are legal whine categories and this press theme covers 2 of them. Speaking as a Mo. corn and soybean farm owner though I am not a real “farmer” as I don’t do the work. 3 things it’s authorized to complain about in farming:

1. The weather.
2. The Government
3. Price of crops.

Never anything in your personal life. That IS whining. Ks.and Mo. slant on this recent theme by the press:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/poli...233291312.html

If you want to check on your neighbors. It’s public record but compiled by the AP for your convenience:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/poli...233405312.html

I found it telling that both articles are in the political vice business sections.

“Many farmers originally supported the administration’s trade posture, but their patience is wearing thin, said Atkinson, a member of the American Soybean Association’s board of directors....” And simultaneously attack the policy as Socialist, thus covering many angles of the cultural attack:

“In the meantime, the government continues issuing checks — sparking outrage from free-market think tanks that have equated the move with socialism and criticized it for ballooning the national debt.”
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BucEyedPea 09:36 AM 08-13-2019
Well, our wheat farmer, Buehler, a rather nice fellow, was whining awhile back. Not necessarily for himself but for his colleagues and soy bean farmers.

Nothing like farmers losing a govt created market for themselves via fake free trade agreements that manage trade and gave China Most Favored Nation trading status; resulting in over production of certain agricultural products. Yeah right, that's free-trade! LMFAO
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Reerun_KC 09:46 AM 08-13-2019
Buehler’s are some the hardest working most genuine people you will ever meet. They earn every dime they make. They are extremely smart and progressive with their farming practices.

If Buehler ever has a beef on anything. He’s earned the right to voice said beef.
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BucEyedPea 09:48 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Baphomet's Hypocrisy:
Sonny is very likely the best SecAg in many years and is very popular with the entire ag community.
Have any empirical evidence of that, besides asserting it as fact? Sounds anecdotal. If I said it, you'd come along citing my use of CIA sources, most of whom have been named, linked and sourced at one time sparing me the need to re-name each time. Or if I used a friend's experience just as casual talk, you'd be the first to mock it. So I'm not letting you get away with this.
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BucEyedPea 08-13-2019, 09:51 AM
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BucEyedPea 09:51 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Reerun_KC:
Buehler’s are some the hardest working most genuine people you will ever meet. They earn every dime they make. They are extremely smart and progressive with their farming practices.

If Buehler ever has a beef on anything. He’s earned the right to voice said beef.
Who said, Buehler didn't have a right to voice a beef here? No one.

Who claimed Buehler wasn't hard-working? No one.

I did say he was whining for his colleagues—not necessarily himself, because they were hurting under Trump's tariff war with China.

He's wrong about what constitutes free-trade tho' which he vehemently defended. So I have just as much right to point it out or post my own beef about it.

So you can get bent.
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BucEyedPea 10:03 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
It's an interesting tactic. If anyone brings up a subject that you're uncomfortable with, just say "triggered" or "outrage."

It doesn't fool anyone, but it's a nice try.
Crimson flames tied through my ears, rollin' high and mighty traps

Pounced with fire on flaming roads using ideas as my maps
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notorious 10:12 AM 08-13-2019
I grew up on a farm. I worked my ass off on a farm. I purchased and am living on this farm now.

With that said, a lot of farmers complain. There are a lot things that directly affect them that's out of their control. My father never did, though, probably due to the Mennonite culture. They just fight through problems without wasting energy bitching.

BUT, they get the world handed to them when it comes to tax breaks and benefits that other small business owners like myself don't get. Don't get me started on how many breaks they get when it comes to employees compared to normal business.

In the end, everybody gets ****ed, just in a different orifice. Welcome to real life.
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Coyote 10:17 AM 08-13-2019
Simple history of farm government subsidies:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agri...ubsidy#History

“The Federal world of agricultural subsidies was originally instituted to stabilize markets, help low-income farmers, and aid rural development. In the United States, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the Agricultural Adjustment Act, which created the Agricultural Adjustment Administration (AAA).”

At this point they are endemic in the markets. Weening off of them would have unknown impacts and would likely lead to a real war somewhere and several “trade wars” if not very gradual over a similar period. Over food and would take some real international and domestic cooperation. Not likely. Why government and crop prices are authorized forms of farm bitching.
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BucEyedPea 10:21 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by Coyote:
Simple history of farm government subsidies:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agri...ubsidy#History

“The Federal world of agricultural subsidies was originally instituted to stabilize markets, help low-income farmers, and aid rural development. In the United States, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the Agricultural Adjustment Act, which created the Agricultural Adjustment Administration (AAA).”

At this point they are endemic in the markets. Weening off of them would have unknown impacts and would likely lead to a real war somewhere and several “trade wars” if not very gradual over a similar period. Over food and would take some real international and domestic cooperation. Not likely. Why government and crop prices are authorized forms of farm bitching.
Well, just to play devil's advocate here, Buehler, a hard-working wheat farmer, has claimed agri subsidies no longer exist or are mostly gone.

Per my relatively recent reading, most of Trump's subsidies have gone to corporate farmers. Ya' know HCF's base.
Not the non-corporate smaller farmers.
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NinerDoug 11:09 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Idiotic OP is idiotic
^Triggered^
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AdolfOliverBush 11:42 AM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
Well, just to play devil's advocate here, Buehler, a hard-working wheat farmer, has claimed agri subsidies no longer exist or are mostly gone.

Per my relatively recent reading, most of Trump's subsidies have gone to corporate farmers. Ya' know HCF's base.
Not the non-corporate smaller farmers.
Oh well. If you can't make ends meet without a handout, it's time to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and find a new line of work. Maybe pick fruit or something.
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Reerun_KC 12:51 PM 08-13-2019
Originally Posted by notorious:
I grew up on a farm. I worked my ass off on a farm. I purchased and am living on this farm now.

With that said, a lot of farmers complain. There are a lot things that directly affect them that's out of their control. My father never did, though, probably due to the Mennonite culture. They just fight through problems without wasting energy bitching.

BUT, they get the world handed to them when it comes to tax breaks and benefits that other small business owners like myself don't get. Don't get me started on how many breaks they get when it comes to employees compared to normal business.

In the end, everybody gets ****ed, just in a different orifice. Welcome to real life.
You said orifice.
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