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Reroka 04:19 AM 08-08-2019
https://time.com/5647269/california-stabbing-rampage
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In58men 09:44 AM 08-08-2019
Wow

https://youtu.be/IFqCJfUKlls
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MephistophelesJanx 09:44 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by Pogue:
That needs to be stopped first before considering merit based legal immigration, which is a system I would be for.
Why not do both at the same time? Start implementing plans on how to do better legal immigration while at the same time having more strict border enforcement? There are certainly enough people getting that government check to accomplish both.

I'll answer my own question.

Why not do both at the same time? Because, by and large, the Left isn't actually interested in the well-being of these people as much as they see them as a way to tilt the political scales and morally demonize the "Right". Because, by and large, the Right flatly states they aren't interested in the well-being of these people and allowing them in would tilt the scales out of their favor.
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Prison Bitch 09:46 AM 08-08-2019

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Reroka 09:47 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by In58men:
Wow

https://youtu.be/IFqCJfUKlls
And?

Are we now against freedom of speech?
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Reroka 09:49 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
This is why liberals want open broader because they can stack the deck to push through laws they want with little push back.
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Prison Bitch 09:54 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by Reroka:
This is why liberals want open broader because they can stack the deck to push through laws they want with little push back.
Of course. But what I keep asking: why do Repube voters want that too?
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Reroka 09:56 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Of course. But what I keep asking: why do Repube voters want that too?
We don't open borders equals illegal immigration. That is a liberal issue.

Repubs want legal immigration based on merit. That does not equal open borders.
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MephistophelesJanx 09:57 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Of course. But what I keep asking: why do Repube voters want that too?
They don't. They say they do so they don't come off like racist assholes come time for re-election but when push comes to shove... none of them will be the first to introduce a bill to make it happen.

If a bill comes... it will come from the left and they will pick it apart until it is a shell of it's former self. When it passes they will turn to the masses and say "You see! We passed this immigration reform because we love all people!".

Same as it ever was.
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Prison Bitch 09:57 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by Reroka:
We don't open borders equals illegal immigration. That is a liberal issue.

Repubs want legal immigration based on merit. That does not equal open borders.
Of course it does.
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Pogue 09:59 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Of course. But what I keep asking: why do Repube voters want that too?
I know itís a rhetorical question but commerce likes cheap labor.
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MephistophelesJanx 09:59 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Of course it does.
Merit based immigration is tantamount to throwing open the gates and placing a welcome mat?
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Prison Bitch 10:03 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx:
Merit based immigration is tantamount to throwing open the gates and placing a welcome mat?
Yep.
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Reroka 10:04 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx:
Merit based immigration is tantamount to throwing open the gates and placing a welcome mat?
according to PB,


He is way to far right for me.
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Prison Bitch 10:05 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by Pogue:
I know itís a rhetorical question but commerce likes cheap labor.
I was asking about the voters.
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Pogue 10:15 AM 08-08-2019
Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx:
Why not do both at the same time? Start implementing plans on how to do better legal immigration while at the same time having more strict border enforcement? There are certainly enough people getting that government check to accomplish both.

I'll answer my own question.

Why not do both at the same time? Because, by and large, the Left isn't actually interested in the well-being of these people as much as they see them as a way to tilt the political scales and morally demonize the "Right". Because, by and large, the Right flatly states they aren't interested in the well-being of these people and allowing them in would tilt the scales out of their favor.
We tried that with Reagan in office and he got bamboozled by the Democrats.
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