... the word in the Chiefs building is that they would like to trade up for QB Patrick Mahomes or RB Christian McCaffrey in the first round. If this falls through, he said they like ILB Zach Cunningham a lot as well. [Reply]
Originally Posted by mcaj22:
Kizer's concern should be his statistical regression in college the same way Barkley, Freeman and Ponder, etc did and the concern he might turn out the same way as them
He looked like the #1 pick when he had Stanley, Prosoise, and Fuller. You've seen what he's capable of... I think he'd be going to a much better situation than those other qbs you listed. The reality of our situation is you're not going to find a qb without red flags. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Urc Burry:
He looked like the #1 pick when he had Stanley, Prosoise, and Fuller. You've seen what he's capable of... I think he'd be going to a much better situation than those other qbs you listed. The reality of our situation is you're not going to find a qb without red flags.
That's what makes him the most scary of all. You need a QB that makes the team around him better, not a QB who's team makes him better. If you need a couple 1st round picks and a 3rd round pick in college just to be an okay QB, then that is very much worrisome.
I was very much on the Kizer train until I watched a bunch more of his games from 2016, then I promptly fell off. I think Kizer peaks in the 2nd round, but I wouldn't be surprised if he goes in the 3rd.
Although I thought a season ago that Prescott was a marginal 1st round talent, teams ended up thinking he was a 3rd round guy. I think Prescott was a much better prospect. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
That's what makes him the most scary of all. You need a QB that makes the team around him better, not a QB who's team makes him better. If you need a couple 1st round picks and a 3rd round pick in college just to be an okay QB, then that is very much worrisome.
I was very much on the Kizer train until I watched a bunch more of his games from 2016, then I promptly fell off. I think Kizer peaks in the 2nd round, but I wouldn't be surprised if he goes in the 3rd.
Although I thought a season ago that Prescott was a marginal 1st round talent, teams ended up thinking he was a 3rd round guy. I think Prescott was a much better prospect.
I'm not sure a QB who divides or fragments a team is worth picking at all.
Look at Cutler, amazing physical talent but could never get the team moving in the same direction.
Maybe Kizer matures and changes but in what round is that worth the risk?
Still, rumors about Kizer but they are seeming to be more and more valid as time goes by. [Reply]
You read about all the 'quarterback room' stuff and I do think Reid will love the kid. He puts so much emphasis on what they do to immerse themselves in the offense and the team that you have to figure that stuff with him showing up to film study with diagrams he put together and suggestions for the offense will just get Reid wet as hell.
And he has an above average arm and a great QB frame. There's quite a bit to like.
I think folks are onto something here; he seems like a nice compromise position between the balls or bust Mahomes and cerebral career backup Peterman.
I dunno...I feel like I should just bow out on QB conversation at this point as I can't come to any conclusions at all. I just keep spinning my wheels except I'm pretty sure I
know who I don't want at this point (and hell, even that I can't stick a flag in the ground on as I could probably be talked into Chad Kelly in the later rounds and I'm pretty sure I can't stand that guy). [Reply]
It's exhausting thinking about all the possibilities at pick 27, especially considering the QB need. Just get a good damn player and I'll be happy. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I was actually wrong on Webb. I didn't like him at all a month ago.
Now I think he brings a lot to the table after learning more about him.
-captain for 2 different schools
-was named captain at Cal after 2 months
-elite body frame
-elite arm
-very smart
-very driven
Andy says he likes players who bring energy and that sounds like this kid. Senior Bowl MVP helps too. Dorsey loves Senior Bowl standouts
Not pissing on your parade, but the Senior Bowl GAME is designed to favour the offense. No blitzes, certain types of coverage need to be played, etc.
I think more evaluation stock is put into the practices leading up to the game. Webb looked good as did Peterman. [Reply]