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Nzoner's Game Room>***Official 2023-2024 NBA Thread***
dirk digler 04:43 PM 10-24-2023
Can't believe the NBA Season is starting tonight. Way to early but here we go.

Lakers vs Nuggets: 6:30PM

Suns vs Warriors: 9PM

Both on TNT
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staylor26 10:53 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
As in all sports, Peak + Longevity = GOAT
He doesn't have the peak argument against MJ. You're just delusional.

Or disingenuous. It's not like you actually try to make the peak argument. It's always longevity.
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KC_Connection 10:54 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
He doesn't have the peak argument against MJ. You're just delusional.
Should I re-post the 9 times he led the league in VORP again?

And even if you somehow gave MJ the slight edge on peak (which I don't concede), the longevity of LeBron blows that edge completely out of the water by this point. The guy is gonna end up playing like 10 more seasons than MJ, all at a top 10 level. :-)
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KC_Connection 10:56 AM 04-23-2024
Basically, you'd have to resort at this point to making some kind of Sandy Koufax argument re MJ's alleged GOAT status. A sad fall for him.
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staylor26 10:57 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Should I re-post the 9 times he led the league in VORP again?

And even if you somehow gave MJ the slight edge on peak (which I don't concede), the longevity of LeBron blows that edge completely out of the water by this point. The guy is gonna end up playing like 10 more seasons than MJ, all at a top 10 level. :-)
Nobody cares about your bullshit statistics. For crying out loud, you legit tried to post a stat that says Lebron ACKSHUALLY earned more championships than MJ.

MJ was the better scorer and defender. Lebron was the better passer and more versatile defender, that's it. Those are the facts.
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DJ's left nut 10:58 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Should I re-post the 9 times he led the league in VORP again?

And even if you somehow gave MJ the slight edge on peak (which I don't concede), the longevity of LeBron blows that edge completely out of the water by this point. The guy is gonna end up playing like 10 more seasons than MJ, all at a top 10 level. :-)
Jordan's peak: 86-91 and in that time he averaged a 31.1 PER, put up 97.2 wins and 55.9 VORP.

Lebron's peak was probably 08-13 and he went for a 30.4 PER, 88 wins and a 47.4 VORP.

Jordan's peak was just better.
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KC_Connection 10:59 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Nobody cares about your bullshit statistics. For crying out loud, you legit tried to post a stat that says Lebron ACKSHUALLY earned more championships than MJ.

MJ was the better scorer and defender. Lebron was the better passer and more versatile defender, that's it. Those are the facts.
So it's just that simple, is it? :-)
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staylor26 11:01 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Jordan's peak: 86-91 and in that time he averaged a 31.1 PER, put up 97.2 wins and 55.9 VORP.

Lebron's peak was probably 08-13 and he went for a 30.4 PER, 88 wins and a 47.4 VORP.

Jordan's peak was just better.
This is why he usually just sticks to the longevity argument :-)
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KC_Connection 11:03 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Jordan's peak: 86-91 and in that time he averaged a 31.1 PER, put up 97.2 wins and 55.9 VORP.

Lebron's peak was probably 08-13 and he went for a 30.4 PER, 88 wins and a 47.4 VORP.

Jordan's peak was just better.
Is Sandy Koufax the greatest pitcher of all time?
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staylor26 11:03 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
So it's just that simple, is it? :-)
Says the guy that posts cherry picked stats and totals. Why don't you respond to DJ's post?
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KC_Connection 11:05 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Says the guy that posts cherry picked stats and totals. Why don't you respond to DJ's post?
I did.
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dirk digler 11:07 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
Are you suggesting it wasn't his 5th title from the NBA then?
You are smarter than this. cmon man.

He is either 1A or 1B all time no need to make up stuff.
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staylor26 11:09 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
I did.
Not a response, just deflection.

We can ask you the same Mr. Longevity.

Is Emmit Smith the greatest RB ever?
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staylor26 11:10 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
You are smarter than this. cmon man.

He is either 1A or 1B all time no need to make up stuff.
There is when the overwhelming consensus is that he's #2 and you just can't accept that reality :-)
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BWillie 11:10 AM 04-23-2024
RE: Jordan and Lebron


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staylor26 11:17 AM 04-23-2024
Originally Posted by BWillie:
RE: Jordan and Lebron

You can't even appreciate the greatness of Jokic, so you should probably just avoid the NBA all together...
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