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Hammock Parties 02:45 PM 10-09-2019
From our cold, dead hands. Our fanbase will start chops on their own if they have to. We don't need music.

The Atlanta Braves will not pass out foam tomahawks at today's game and will "reduce the Tomahawk Chop" after complaints by a Cardinals player claiming the tradition is offensive - WSBTV

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) October 9, 2019

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Imon Yourside 03:12 PM 10-09-2019
Originally Posted by srvy:
I dont see what is offensive about a tomahawk its just a tool. What if we call it the Swedish axe chop?
Wait! it's not the Price Chopper chop?
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Iowanian 03:12 PM 10-09-2019
I'd give more attention to concerns and feelings if I couldn't buy rubber tomahawks and feathered head dresses and rubber spears at Indian Casinos right now.


what the player should be more concerned about is losing.
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srvy 03:26 PM 10-09-2019
I always thought the chop was stupid and stolen by Atlanta Braves from the Florida Semen holes. Then some genius marketeer of the Peterson era stole it from the Braves and here we are with the stupid thing.
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Jerok 03:26 PM 10-09-2019
They take away teh chop, I will do the double chop. TO THE CHOPPAR!
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Jewish Rabbi 03:28 PM 10-09-2019
The fans voluntarily stopped after they’re down by 10 in the first inning :-)
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Marcellus 03:28 PM 10-09-2019
Cardinals are up 10-1 in the 1st inning, I believe they killed the chop.
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Imon Yourside 03:30 PM 10-09-2019
Perhaps they should have done a rain dance instead? or are they now?
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Rain Man 03:35 PM 10-09-2019
They stopped because an opposing player didn't like it? If that actually works, I hope our Chiefs players complain about the fans making noise on third down when we're in opposing stadiums.
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iDeaL 04:01 PM 10-09-2019
While maybe not offensive, it is at the very least annoying AF when the Braves fans do it, and I have always thought it was. This is because it seems like they do it fucking constantly throughout the game.. like after every pitch or at bat. It gets to the point where watching a Braves home game is more like a concert of thousands of people doing the chant where there just so happens to be a baseball game being played in the background.

How many times during a Chiefs home game do the fans actually break out into the chant full throat? I've only been to 2 Chiefs home games, but its definitely not nearly as often as they do at Braves games, and also not nearly as noticeable while watching a Chiefs home game on TV. Also could be just that they do it so much because it keeps the fans engaged in the otherwise slow, boring nature of a baseball game, but still really freaking annoying.
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Rain Man 04:03 PM 10-09-2019
Originally Posted by iDeaL:
While maybe not offensive, it is at the very least annoying AF when the Braves fans do it, and I have always thought it was. This is because it seems like they do it ****ing constantly throughout the game.. like after every pitch or at bat. It gets to the point where watching a Braves home game is more like a concert of thousands of people doing the chant where there just so happens to be a baseball game being played in the background.

How many times during a Chiefs home game do the fans actually break out into the chant full throat? I've only been to 2 Chiefs home games, but its definitely not nearly as often as they do at Braves games, and also not nearly as noticeable while watching a Chiefs home game on TV. Also could be just that they do it so much because it keeps the fans engaged in the otherwise slow, boring nature of a baseball game, but still really freaking annoying.

Yeah, there's really nothing else to do at a baseball game. At a football game you get to watch football, but at a baseball game you're just eating and checking your phone, and maybe looking up if you hear a home run get hit.
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carcosa 04:09 PM 10-09-2019
I'd like it if our fans didn't do the chop anymore but it's pretty far down the list of things I care about. As far as affronts to Native Americans go, the Dakota Access Pipeline and Elizabeth Warren's history of redface are far more important and offensive.
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RealSNR 04:12 PM 10-09-2019
Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi:
I think it’s important to note that player is a Cherokee, not just some random dude.
The Chief Wahoo logo is 100000x more racist than a tomahawk chop. THIS is what the guy is complaining about?

I get that he's currently playing the Braves, but why has he not spoken up before?
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Kiimosabi 04:14 PM 10-09-2019
The chop will eventually go away because it isn't a great look. I'm offended because it isn't original, personally.

Most native americans including the ones in my family don't give a shit but let's be honest they have a right to not really be amused by it.

I mean, you can say what's the big deal it's a rock tied to a stick but also, I don't know, Trail of Tears happened in this country.

If it was some tradition that goes back to the beginning I'd be more animated in defense of it but it's like playing Gary Glitter. Do you REALLY need it?

Maybe invent some new traditions that don't come from Florida
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lcarus 04:18 PM 10-09-2019
Teams have Native American mascots and chants because it's badass, which should be taken as a compliment. Of course, context doesn't mean a damn thing to the cancel culture of today.
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lcarus 04:19 PM 10-09-2019
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi:
If it was some tradition that goes back to the beginning I'd be more animated in defense of it but it's like playing Gary Glitter. Do you REALLY need it?
YES!
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