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The Lounge>Andy Reid is a terrible head football coach
rabblerouser 09:43 AM 09-18-2015
Seriously.

This guy is terrible at game management...which is really the #1 job of a head coach, above and beyond all the other things some coaches do and others don't, they ALL have one thing in common : game management.

People make the excuse, "well, that's who he is. He was like that in Philly. Good Andy/Bad Andy."

Well, I know if any one of us ****'s up constantly, and don't learn and don't change the stupid tendecies, then we don't have a job anymore.

His failure to adapt his "strategy" to something more than a 9 year old's Madden technique is more than maddening - it's flat out ****ing unacceptable.

If I was Clark Hunt, and I watched that embarrassing shitshow that went out over national TV last night, Reid's ass is in my office 1st thing this morning and I might fire him. Seriously. That was horrific.

I find it unfathomable that a coach of some 20+ years NFL experience (16 or 17 as HC) is so blitheringly ignorant of basic situational football.
1st qtr, 1st and goal from the 2. RUN THE BALL 4 STRAIGHT TIMES IF YOU HAVE TO. The all time leader in NFL rushing average is in the backfield...or is Reid thinking about Burnt ends??

1st and goal with 90 sec at the end of the half - you lead 14-7, their offense just got some momentum, so...END THE HALF with 3 kneel downs and go in the locker room leading by 7. 14, because it's 21-7 if you run with Jamal at goal to go on the 1st series.

Take the guy getting toasted out of the game - Jemel Phlegming SUCKS. maybe Reid started Sanders and Manning in his fantasy team??


After Knile Davis goes UNTOUCHED for an 8 yd TD scamper in the 4th, you keep feeding those fresh legs the ball, and never relinquish the lead.

****, that sequence at the end of the 1st half was ABYSMAL. Reid and his staff should be FIRED for gross incompetence. Before that mini-shitshow, Denver didn't even think they could play football anymore, and 5head looked like he was ready to lay down and die.

This is ALL on the coaching staff. They threw this game.*

Andy Reid should be held accountable.

Instead...he gets a paycheck and a mixed plate.

How is this guy a head coach??

DAMN NEAR ANYONE ON CP COULD HAVE CALLED A BETTER GAME THAN ANDY FAT SHITSHOW REID LAST NIGHT...

He wins most of the games he should, based on talent alone...

How does he keep jobs?? How is Clark not roasting his ass right ****ing now!!!???

What will it take, blowing a 50 point lead in the playoffs???

(Don't know if it was intentional or just a byproduct of Reid's now-obvious incompetence...but make no mistake - this game was ours and Reid GAVE IT AWAY. INEXCUSABLE.)

But why should Reid care??

He's gonna be eating KC BBQ for the next 5-6 years.


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Discuss Thrower 10:30 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0:
He has a winning record in KC ... Not sure how that's damn near every Sunday, but I'm not here to argue today.
Take away games started by Tuel, Keenum, Campbell, Pryor etc and does this still hold up?
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mcaj22 10:31 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
It's those things that make you go :-)
eventually we are going down a path of "would Dorsey fire his friend" if yes, who would he consider as replacements, assuming from that tree. If no, are Andy and Dorsey a package, do we have to fire both and start over. Dorsey has done his job, the question is how is the staff hierarchy considering we hired Andy before Dorsey.
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Hootie 10:32 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Take away games started by Tuel, Keenum, Campbell, Pryor etc and does this still hold up?
This board loves Andrew Luck. Go take away all his wins against shit teams and report back
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Don Corlemahomes 10:32 AM 09-18-2015
Those 3 fumbles were all on Andy Reid. Blame Andy!!!
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rabblerouser 10:33 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0:
This board loves Andrew Luck. Go take away all his wins against shit teams and report back
What about his wins against shit playoff teams??
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rabblerouser 10:34 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by Cunning Linguist:
Those 3 fumbles were all on Andy Reid. Blame Andy!!!

Read the thread.

SITUATIONAL FOOTBALL, MOTHER****ER - HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT??

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rabblerouser 10:35 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0:
I guess I dreamt beating New England, Seattle, and 4 other teams with winning records last year.
Pfft. That's even more damning. What's that matter when you lose to Ten and Oak and miss the playoffs at 9-7??

That's indicitive of terrible coaching.

We have possibly the deepest roster from position to position in the league, the talent to beat ANY TEAM, including both Super Bowl participants from last year...

And you lose to doormats like Ten and Oak??

That's terrible coaching, by definition.
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ChiTown 10:36 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by mcaj22:
eventually we are going down a path of "would Dorsey fire his friend" if yes, who would he consider as replacements, assuming from that tree. If no, are Andy and Dorsey a package, do we have to fire both and start over. Dorsey has done his job, the question is how is the staff hierarchy considering we hired Andy before Dorsey.
Primarily yes, but somewhat no. The top two picks he had in his first two drafts are turning out to be flops. His 1:1 pick could be historically bad, and the Dee Ford pick looks to be 1st rd back-up material. The right side of the OL is pathetic, and he owns that. I really like most of the moves he's made, but I just can't get over how bad half the OL looks.
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Hootie 10:38 AM 09-18-2015
No one is firing Reid. And he's also done nothing worthy of being fired. This is akin to drafting Derek Carr because he's a QB and we need a QB. We're not doing better than Reid. Firing a guy doesn't mean upgrade. We still couldn't have had anyone that was an upgrade to Alex Smith. If this board ran the Chiefs, we'd be more of a laughing stock than Jacksonville
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Pablo 10:40 AM 09-18-2015
Andy is just going to be Andy. As long as he's here - and he'll be here quite a while if he strings together .500+ football teams - we're going to have games like this.

Too smart for his own good! I've heard that about someone else on this team as well. What a pairing we have Chiefs fans, a QB and HC that are just TOO smart.
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rabblerouser 10:40 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
Primarily yes, but somewhat no. The top two picks he had in his first two drafts are turning out to be flops. His 1:1 pick could be historically bad, and the Dee Ford pick looks to be 1st rd back-up material. The right side of the OL is pathetic, and he owns that. I really like most of the moves he's made, but I just can't get over how bad half the OL looks.
And that's supposed to be their bread and butter.

Andy was Oline and TEs as a position coach.

Has he ever been an OC (besides his own) at the NFL level??

Don't think so...
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rabblerouser 10:43 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0:
No one is firing Reid. And he's also done nothing worthy of being fired. This is akin to drafting Derek Carr because he's a QB and we need a QB. We're not doing better than Reid. Firing a guy doesn't mean upgrade. We still couldn't have had anyone that was an upgrade to Alex Smith. If this board ran the Chiefs, we'd be more of a laughing stock than Jacksonville
I'm talking about ingame management on Sunday gamedays.

You're the type of mother****er where someone asks you the time, you try to to tell them how to build a watch.

I'm no draftnik. I'm not a talent evaluator.

But I've played enough Madden and watched enough football to know that I could've done a better job than Reid last night.

And his in game incompetence is enough to get him fired, if I were the owner.

It was embarrassing and unacceptable.

I would DEMAND greatness.

Be great or be gone.

And Andy is far from great.
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Titty Meat 10:45 AM 09-18-2015
Reid is still better than most coaches in the league
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mcaj22 10:46 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by ChiTown:
Primarily yes, but somewhat no. The top two picks he had in his first two drafts are turning out to be flops. His 1:1 pick could be historically bad, and the Dee Ford pick looks to be 1st rd back-up material. The right side of the OL is pathetic, and he owns that. I really like most of the moves he's made, but I just can't get over how bad half the OL looks.
as horrible as those picks are, and they are horrible. Dorsey has given us Marcus Peters, Mitch Morse, Travis Kelce. These are diamond in the rough picks Fat Scott could never pick for us. Fat Scott only gave us 4 good players cause they landed in his lap. Even though Dorsey misses he still does his homework in all phases and lands us good players with his bad ones. Fat Scott would only get us turds. Dorsey has found us Ron Parker, Jaye Howard, Hussain Abdullah, on the scrap heap. Fat Scott was giving us Stanford Routt, Sabby Piscitelli and Peyton Hillis. Horrible.
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ChiTown 10:46 AM 09-18-2015
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
I'm talking about ingame management on Sunday gamedays.

You're the type of mother****er where someone asks you the time, you try to to tell them how to build a watch.

I'm no draftnik. I'm not a talent evaluator.

But I've played enough Madden and watched enough football to know that I could've done a better job than Reid last night.

And his in game incompetence is enough to get him fired, if I were the owner.

It was embarrassing and unacceptable.

I would DEMAND greatness.

Be great or be gone.

And Andy is far from great.
Sanka - get some.
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