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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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BWillie 10:07 AM 05-01-2020
My mom is mad at me because I won't come up for my grandma's 80th birthday party in a week in a half in Iowa. She said it's okay because they are reopening. She said.

I can't think of a dumber thing to do right now for an 80 year old woman. I'm afraid this is going to be happening all over.
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Monticore 10:10 AM 05-01-2020
article about lockdowns pros and cons just more info or the same info depending on the person.
https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...to-their-homes
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IowaHawkeyeChief 10:12 AM 05-01-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
Do you go golfing during a lighting storm? the odds of getting hit are pretty low but most people still take precautions.
Correct, but if there is a lightning storm in New York, I would still go golfing in Iowa. If their was a lightning storm at the meat packing plant in Iowa, I would still go golfing 120 miles from there...
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IowaHawkeyeChief 10:23 AM 05-01-2020
Originally Posted by R Clark:
Yeah lol I’ve got three beefs to take to locker in aug. and no one to buy them. Had buyers lined up and they all canceled.
Where are you located?
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Monticore 10:24 AM 05-01-2020
Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief:
Correct, but if there is a lightning storm in New York, I would still go golfing in Iowa. If their was a lightning storm at the meat packing plan in Iowa, I would still go golfing 120 miles from there...
That storm will move though in a unpredictable fashion and even end up in Iowa. But I do think some places could open up figuring out the best way to do it as to not have a relapse is tricky.
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Discuss Thrower 10:26 AM 05-01-2020
Missouri's Rt at .78, not that that means anything apparently.
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Donger 10:29 AM 05-01-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Missouri's Rt at .78, not that that means anything apparently.
It means something. It means that the mitigation efforts have worked.
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Discuss Thrower 10:30 AM 05-01-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
It means something. It means that the mitigation efforts have worked.
Great. Explain why KC's cases keep increasing at a steady 4% rate.
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Donger 10:32 AM 05-01-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Great. Explain why KC's cases keep increasing at a steady 4% rate.
Because metro areas get hit harder than the rest of the state.
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Discuss Thrower 10:36 AM 05-01-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Because metro areas get hit harder than the rest of the state.
The metros, (both of them) shut down before the rest of the state. STL is doing worse when controlling for population size and KC is apparently more in line with Kansas' Rt than the rest of Missouri.

So in the end, Rt doesn't mean anything, since six weeks of official lockdown hasn't really accomplished anything here in Kansas City -and especially STL since it's getting higher numbers of cases even after you control for population size- since 'mitigation' cannot be measured by any objective basis.
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Donger 10:40 AM 05-01-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
The metros, (both of them) shut down before the rest of the state. STL is doing worse when controlling for population size and KC is apparently more in line with Kansas' Rt than the rest of Missouri.

So in the end, Rt doesn't mean anything, since six weeks of official lockdown hasn't really accomplished anything here in Kansas City -and especially STL since it's getting higher numbers of cases even after you control for population size- since 'mitigation' cannot be measured by any objective basis.
I think it's pretty clear that the R0 for major metros are going to be higher than rural parts of the state. That's just logic.

Are you arguing that the R0 numbers would have declined as that website shows without mitigation in the same time frame?
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TLO 10:44 AM 05-01-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
The metros, (both of them) shut down before the rest of the state. STL is doing worse when controlling for population size and KC is apparently more in line with Kansas' Rt than the rest of Missouri.

So in the end, Rt doesn't mean anything, since six weeks of official lockdown hasn't really accomplished anything here in Kansas City -and especially STL since it's getting higher numbers of cases even after you control for population size- since 'mitigation' cannot be measured by any objective basis.
I hope you have my $10,000 real dollars ready to roll.
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Discuss Thrower 10:48 AM 05-01-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
I hope you have my $10,000 real dollars ready to roll.
You'll have to accept delivery of gold pressed latinum, FYI.
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Discuss Thrower 10:50 AM 05-01-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I think it's pretty clear that the R0 for major metros are going to be higher than rural parts of the state. That's just logic.

Are you arguing that the R0 numbers would have declined as that website shows without mitigation in the same time frame?
Sounds like the website has built a flawed model.
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Donger 10:52 AM 05-01-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Sounds like the website has built a flawed model.
I presume it takes the metro areas into account. They are state-wide numbers, no?
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