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Nzoner's Game Room>Official 2017-2018 NBA Playoffs thread!
Al Bundy 08:21 PM 04-13-2018

We'll see if the Warriors recover from the end of the season stretch of stinkers.
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BigCatDaddy 09:05 PM 05-25-2018
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
If the Cavs make the finals, I don't know if there is a worse supporting cast around a superstar in NBA history to ever play in the finals.
Shows you how bad the East is and why the east/west playoff format should be shit canned.
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KC_Connection 09:06 PM 05-25-2018
Damn, LeBron actually looks exhausted. He's usually able to give much better post-game interviews than that.

I guess we'll see how much he has left for Sunday.
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BigCatDaddy 09:06 PM 05-25-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
What does this mean? Lol
:-)

I am puzzled to. I think it was like the old sayong that Frazier was the best boxer ever but Ali was the greatest man to ever box..... but I could be way off.
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-King- 09:09 PM 05-25-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
What does this mean? Lol
Greatness includes rings and accolades. Best is pure skill and talent. LeBron won't have as many rinfs as Jordan but he's a better player.

Like Aaron Rodgers won't have as many rings as Brady, but he's more talented and is a better quarterback playwise.
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KC_Connection 09:09 PM 05-25-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
What does this mean? Lol
That LeBron is better at basketball than MJ.
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staylor26 09:14 PM 05-25-2018
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
That LeBron is better at basketball than MJ.


Originally Posted by New World Order:
These are the things that really matter. Which accomplishment(s) is he going to break KCC:

Highest playoff scoring average in the history of the NBA

Higher NBA Finals average

Most NBA Finals MVPs

9x All-defensive first team

10x scoring champion

Most points in an NBA Finals series

Most points in playoff game.

6 NBA titles
.
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chiefzilla1501 09:15 PM 05-25-2018
Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad:
06-07 Cavs?
Possibly. But that team played really, really good and underrated defense.
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chiefzilla1501 09:16 PM 05-25-2018
Originally Posted by -King-:
Jordan is the greatest players to ever play the game but LeBron is the best player to ever play. He's just ridiculous
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I think that's a fair statement. And I totally get what you mean.
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KC_Connection 09:19 PM 05-25-2018
Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad:
06-07 Cavs?
Nope. From an advanced stats perspective, this year's scrubs are far worse.

2007 Cavs:
LeBron: 7.4 BPM, 7.6 VORP
Ilgauskas: 2.0 BPM, 2.1 VORP
Varejeo: 1.7 BPM, 1.8 VORP
Marshall: 0.2 BPM, 0.8 VORP
Gooden: 0.0 BPM, 1.1 VORP
Hughes: -0.5 BPM, 1.0 VORP
Pavlovic: -0.7 BPM, 0.5 VORP
Gibson: -2.0 BPM, 0.2 VORP
Snow: -3.0 BPM, -0.5 VORP

2018 Cavs:
LeBron: 9.6 BPM, 8.9 VORP
Nance: 2.6 BPM, 0.6 VORP (who doesn't play for some reason)
Love: 1.3 BPM, 1.4 VORP
Korver: 0.1 BPM, 0.9 VORP
Hill: -0.6 BPM, 0.2 VORP
Smith: -1.7 BPM, 0.2 VORP
Green: -1.9 BPM, 0.1 VORP
Thompson: -2.5 BPM, -0.1 VORP
Hood: -2.7 BPM, -0.1 VORP
Clarkson: -3.1 BPM, -0.2 VORP
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staylor26 09:20 PM 05-25-2018
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I think that's a fair statement. And I totally get what you mean.
After hearing his explanation, I don’t think it’s an outrageous thing to say, although I disagree.

At least he acknowledges how important Jordan’s accolades and performances on the biggest stage are at the end of the day, unlike that loser KCC.
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KC_Connection 09:24 PM 05-25-2018
Those are regular season stats BTW.

In the playoffs, LeBron has 14.4 BPM and 2.7 VORP. The only others making positive contributions when on the floor have been Nance (5.4 BPM/0.4 VORP), Korver (2.3 BPM/0.4 VORP), and Thompson (0.1 BPM/0.1 VORP). :-)
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chiefzilla1501 09:26 PM 05-25-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
After hearing his explanation, I don’t think it’s an outrageous thing to say, although I disagree.

At least he acknowledges how important Jordan’s accolades and performances on the biggest stage are at the end of the day, unlike that loser KCC.
I interpreted it as Lebron is the most talented player to ever play the game. But Jordan is the best to ever play the game. Beyond rings and accolades, it's attitude. Jordan may be forever untouchable when it comes to killer instinct, in my opinion. Lebron is great at it, but Jordan in that area is immortal.
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KC_Connection 09:28 PM 05-25-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
unlike that loser KCC.
Rattled? Yet another performance like that from the true GOAT would trigger me too if I was an irrational MJ backer.
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KC_Connection 09:32 PM 05-25-2018

Per @bball_ref,

Most playoff games with at least 40 points, 10 rebounds and 5 assists over the last 50 years:

LeBron James: 13
Micheal Jordan: 4
Shaq O’Neal: 4
Larry Bird:3
Tim Duncan: 3
Wilt Chamberlain: 3

— Tommy Beer (@TommyBeer) May 26, 2018



LeBron now has more career 40 point playoff games than Shaq and Kobe... combined.

— nick wright (@getnickwright) May 26, 2018




:-) at how much better this guy is than anybody who has ever played this game.
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TomBarndtsTwin 09:37 PM 05-25-2018
Originally Posted by KC_Connection:
The greatest player there ever was. LeBron James.
:-)
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