I think they'll look at Lonnie Johnson Jr from Kentucky. 29 is high for him, but he has a ton of potential, plus he played for Matt House who will know the inside scoop on him. He also had a great senior bowl and the chiefs love drafting ppl from there. [Reply]
I don't remember where I saw it but some former NFL player did a rating on CB and S. He thought the top 6 ranked safeties would be better than what the Chiefs have and the top 7 ranked CB's would be an improvement as well. That makes me not real picky as to who the Chiefs want and if they want to trade around to get another pick or two I won't be climbing up on the window ledge. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefoftheKeyboard:
I think they'll look at Lonnie Johnson Jr from Kentucky. 29 is high for him, but he has a ton of potential, plus he played for Matt House who will know the inside scoop on him. He also had a great senior bowl and the chiefs love drafting ppl from there.
He's a guy I think falls to the end of the 2nd. He's really long (measured 6'2" at the Senior Bowl) and would be good in a press scheme with his arm length. [Reply]
Isaiah Johnson, Houston. 6'2'' 207 lbs, 33 5/8'' arms. Switched from WR to CB after sophomore year. With good coaching, he has the size, length, speed and hips to be a good fit at press man CB in a cover 3 defense. Currently rated 3-5th round pick on most boards. [Reply]
CB's all over the place so far, I've seen Baker as high as 10. I've seen Williams in the 1st and at the bottom of the 2nd, there's no consistency. [Reply]
One of these guys will be available in the 2nd, and that makes me feel a lot better about possibly going in a different direction at 29. Still hoping CB is BPA though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Mecca:
CB's all over the place so far, I've seen Baker as high as 10. I've seen Williams in the 1st and at the bottom of the 2nd, there's no consistency.
Absolutely none at all.
You'll see some people with J. Williams in the early 3rd, others with him in the 1st. I've seen Baker go in the top 10 to as low as the late 30s. I think I saw Mullen slip to the 3rd and be like the 7th or 8th CB off the board. Even the consensus 'top' CB in the draft (Greedy Williams) I have seen falling into the late 20s on occasion.
I don't think anyone has a real feel for the first 8-10 CBs in this draft.
Like Staylor, the number of relatively similarly situated CBs in this draft makes me not care all that much if we don't go that route with 29. And man, it sure presents a great opportunity to double dip at the back of the round and get two bites at the apple. If we took a duo like Ya-Sin and Johnson Jr back there, you have to think at least one of them develops into the kind of immediate impact player we need.
I don't see a truly elite CB prospect in this class but I see a lot of guys who can probably help, especially over a long-enough timeline (like, by December). That's why I'm not as eager to take a high floor guy like Baker as early as many are.
I think we can make due for awhile much in the same way we did with Scandrick until Ward was ready to play. It's not a perfect spot to find yourself in, but if it yields a higher ceiling player in the 1st, I think that's the way to go. And if your 'make due' situation is Fuller/Ward out wide while someone like Smith takes lumps but learns from the slot...well again, it's not ideal but there's a silver lining there in that you at least get some player development time that may/may not bear fruit long-term. If it doesn't, c'est la vie - you still have the CB duo you drafted to tag in sometime later in the season. [Reply]
I'd LOVE it if we got two CB's and a S out of that.
As we're likely to keep either Houston in a restructure OR Ford on a tag year. If we tag and trade Ford, I'd still love it, and add in a DE with Ford's pick (probably another #2) Then you could draft PBA the rest of the way and be in a really good shape. [Reply]
On joejuan, Vandy Cb... Go watch the Vandy vs ole miss game and you’ll see it. He played well against their wrs. I think he could do well against big wrs but get burned by smaller ones. He’s instinctive and a leader. The nfl won’t be too much for him. He got a big int against Arkansas to help Vandy win that game. He’s a playmaker. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kcbubb:
On joejuan, Vandy Cb... Go watch the Vandy vs ole miss game and you’ll see it. He played well against their wrs. I think he could do well against big wrs but get burned by smaller ones. He’s instinctive and a leader. The nfl won’t be too much for him. He got a big int against Arkansas to help Vandy win that game. He’s a playmaker.
That's my issue with big corners and a reason I don't have Oruwariye rated any higher than I do. I'm tired of watching this team have corners that get beat by smaller receivers in the playoffs. Edelman. Brown. Etc. Give me a corner that might struggle against the few 6'4"-6'5" receivers that are actually worth a fuck that I might have to roll a safety over the top of than try to compensate for corners that can't cover simple slants. [Reply]