Posting this here because it feels much more likely to be a viable intelligent conversation right now and not a bunch of ‘fuck you fuck him!!!’.....
Alright. So what do you guys think we should do/will do with him now?
I think it’s prisoner of the moment thinking to say they should let him go based on the one play last night. But that doesn’t mean that it is or isn’t the right move necessarily. We’ve also got to consider that this front 4 could be even more lethal with a new DC.
The way I see it, it’s either tag or tag & trade. And I guess for me it would come down to where the cap sits and how much I can get back in said potential trade.
Originally Posted by O.city:
Yeah, they ran 94 plays. 94 fucking plays.
You talked about it before, but Bill and Tom just pulled some wizard shit and we fucked it up.
They did exactly nothing complicated or unexpected.
They came ready to play in the first half and we just flat didn't. The moment was finally too big for them. It happens but I'll be damned if I thought we might avoid it.
Turns out Mahomes was still damn near good enough to pull us out of it but the bottom line is that you can't spot a championship caliber opponent an entire half and hope to win unless you're as battle tested as they are. The Chiefs could MAYBE have held on there if they were 3 years further down the road with some of these young guys but they simply could not do that when they were spotting so much big-game experience as well.
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
They did exactly nothing complicated or unexpected.
They came ready to play in the first half and we just flat didn't. The moment was finally too big for them. It happens but I'll be damned if I thought we might avoid it.
Turns out Mahomes was still damn near good enough to pull us out of it but the bottom line is that you can't spot a championship caliber opponent an entire half and hope to win unless you're as battle tested as they are. The Chiefs could MAYBE have held on there if they were 3 years further down the road with some of these young guys but they simply could not do that when they were spotting so much big-game experience as well.
****ing Ford. What a vapor lock.
But they fucking did. I mean they battled back. They held the Pats to 10 second half points and had Brady throw 3 picks.
The main reason I’m most down with tag and trade now is I don’t have faith in him to stay healthy again next year. But I’d want an earlier 2nd round pick minimum. [Reply]
I was initially down with a 1-year tag. Now even that looks shit ass expensive, though it's certainly possible in the two or so years before Mahomes starts to take up a significant portion of the cap.
Do NOT give him a longterm deal. I'm fine with tagging and signing or tagging and trading. But it's one year only. [Reply]
I'm tending more towards the tag and trade the more and more I think it through. I don't think you can justify just letting him walk away though. Gotta get a return better than a 3rd next year and that's only IF the Chiefs don't sign another free agent that wipes him out. I'd prefer Preston Smith here. He plays the run really well and generates a ton of pressure on the QB, even if his sacks total doesn't seem to indicate it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
The main reason I’m most down with tag and trade now is I don’t have faith in him to stay healthy again next year. But I’d want an earlier 2nd round pick minimum.
I’d take a 2nd or even early 3rd rd pick.
This draft is filled with a lot of quality and quantity of defensive players. Stock these guys up now. [Reply]
tag and trade. He's so one dimensional as to be a liability in anything other than rushing the passer. You need to have more versatility than that I think in this NFL. [Reply]