Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy! [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
I agree. I think for a player as talented as he is, learning from Reid and Smith for a year was great for him. If he can mix in his gun slinger mentality with Smith's careful mentality, he'll be our version of Aaron Rodgers IMO. Posted via Mobile Device
So you don't want Mahomes to throw the pass to Robinson with Von Miller hot on Mahomes's heels on the game winning drive in Denver? You want Smith's throw it away mentality to come through on that play instead?
Edit: This would be an interesting poll if someone could find the gif to put with it. Do you want to see Mahomes make these passes into triple coverage? Or should Andy neuter him and make him Smith like? Either he can make those passes or he can't, because you don't know the outcome before he throws them. And make the poll so you can see who votes what. [Reply]
Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat:
My favorite story about Favre was when the coaches would ask the QBs to script out the first 10 plays of a game and Favre's would be 10 straight bombs down the field. Sometimes he wouldn't even do it and would take Doug Peterson's script and pass it off as his own instead.
Originally Posted by Coogs:
So you don't want Mahomes to throw the pass to Robinson with Von Miller hot on Mahomes's heels on the game winning drive in Denver? You want Smith's throw it away mentality to come through on that play instead?
Edit: This would be an interesting poll if someone could find the gif to put with it. Do you want to see Mahomes make these passes into triple coverage? Or should Andy neuter him and make him Smith like? Either he can make those passes or he can't, because you don't know the outcome before he throws them. And make the poll so you can see who votes what.
I threw that put for funnzies, but there are legit reasons I put that name there, too.
Son of a pro athlete.
Known for spending immense amounts of time on prep work
Organized practices with teammates away from facility to get an edge
Not afraid to make the throw, mentality.
Academic allamerican
All of his coaches including Reid RAVE about his intelligence and Reid has talked a lot about his 6 hour session withMahomes pre draft that made him want to draft him.
I know Manning is a stretch, but Pats a smart cookie that’s a hard worker. [Reply]
Again there are a million things that Mahomes can do, this season will come down to him being able to read defenses and check to the option play with the highest probability. Andy is going to show him a lot of Zone Blitz and Zone Man combos this offseason to teach him different ways of making the defense tip their hand. Him learning what calls to audible and adjustments to make to counter different looks will be key.
All that is before you add in Mahomes natural ability to Throw and Improvise on the fly.
And
He can improvise on broken plays for big gains. AND on plays that are not broken his no look pass could be the difference between 10-15 yards and 30-TD
This was what drove defensive coordinators nuts in the Big 12, along with the DC at LSU about Mahomes. His eyes see. His mind processes. His body reacts. His team scores. And all in a matter of nano-seconds.
It's exciting to hear that Reid is coaching Mahomes, and grooming the offense, to an improved version of what Mahomes played at Tech--which was largely an unstoppable offense.
And at Tech, we always had very good receivers, but they were often undersized and not always speedy. Our running game was hit and miss from game to game and in Mahomes' last season, the offensive line was not good.
This season at KC will be interesting.
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
He makes those around him better... the key to elite QB play. Not saying he is yet, but obviously he can be.
Perhaps more than anything, the mark of not just a prize athlete, but a leader is to make those around him better. Ask ANY former teammate of Mahomes', and they'll agree--he doesn't just push those around him to get better, he freaking inspires them too by example and leadership.
Originally Posted by milkman:
After Holmgren left, the bone in his head grew, and should Mahome ne as boneheaded, this team will not have the cap space to overcome his bonehead.
I honestly do not think this is going to be an issue nor concern with this young man. During this three years at Tech, he was revered as a saint around West Texas and the more he was admired and fawned over, the more humble he became--quite the opposite of Mayfield, Manziel and other hotshot superstars.
I also do not think Mahomes will be a salary cap drain. This young man is about winning and team. Period.
My biggest concern is not for the 2018 season, but the 2019 season when all of the league will have a year's worth of film on this young man--and be working their butts off to adjust defensive schemes to him and his style of play.
Saw it at Tech, and while the Big 12 wasn't a defensive league juggernaut, part of that was because the league WAS an offensive monster. Mahomes has too many tools of his own that he can beat you with. Add in a (hopefully) improved offensive line and the offensive weapons he has. . .
I'd invest in Maalox stock--defensive coordinators are going to be buying it by truckload this season and next.
Originally Posted by JDKinman:
This was what drove defensive coordinators nuts in the Big 12, along with the DC at LSU about Mahomes. His eyes see. His mind processes. His body reacts. His team scores. And all in a matter of nano-seconds.
It's exciting to hear that Reid is coaching Mahomes, and grooming the offense, to an improved version of what Mahomes played at Tech--which was largely an unstoppable offense.
And at Tech, we always had very good receivers, but they were often undersized and not always speedy. Our running game was hit and miss from game to game and in Mahomes' last season, the offensive line was not good.
This season at KC will be interesting.
Perhaps more than anything, the mark of not just a prize athlete, but a leader is to make those around him better. Ask ANY former teammate of Mahomes', and they'll agree--he doesn't just push those around him to get better, he freaking inspires them too by example and leadership.
I honestly do not think this is going to be an issue nor concern with this young man. During this three years at Tech, he was revered as a saint around West Texas and the more he was admired and fawned over, the more humble he became--quite the opposite of Mayfield, Manziel and other hotshot superstars.
I also do not think Mahomes will be a salary cap drain. This young man is about winning and team. Period.
My biggest concern is not for the 2018 season, but the 2019 season when all of the league will have a year's worth of film on this young man--and be working their butts off to adjust defensive schemes to him and his style of play.
Saw it at Tech, and while the Big 12 wasn't a defensive league juggernaut, part of that was because the league WAS an offensive monster. Mahomes has too many tools of his own that he can beat you with. Add in a (hopefully) improved offensive line and the offensive weapons he has. . .
I'd invest in Maalox stock--defensive coordinators are going to be buying it by truckload this season and next.
JD
Great post. You should chime in more often. I wonder if ,refering to the part I bolded, has something to do with him being a locker room rat as a kid and learning from his father about being a part of a TEAM and what it takes to win.
This kid just gives you a great gut feeling. [Reply]
Obviously I want him to succeed because he's our quarterback, but he's such a good human being too. Even though he was a Charger, I always liked LT. That man did a lot of good things for San Diego. JJ Watt, Ben Watson, etc. I'm a Chiefs fan first, but I'm a fan of many players throughout the league. [Reply]
Patrick Mahomes declined endorsement money in deference to Alex Smith last season
Shutdown Corner Jason Owens,Shutdown Corner
File this one under “things you don’t expect from a professional athlete.”
Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes turned down easy endorsement money last season. And he did it with the blessing of his agent.
The decision wasn’t because of a conflict with the products or services. It was because he didn’t want the publicity.
Mahomes didn’t want the hype before he played a snap
Mahomes and his agent Leigh Steinberg talked to ESPN about how he declined local endorsements last year in deference to veteran starter Alex Smith. Steinberg said that Mahomes got some of the offers that come with being a first-round rookie, but chose to focus instead on finding his place in the locker room before having his face plastered on Kansas City billboards while Smith was still the starter.
“We talked about how the first year the goal was to integrate into the team, and the only way to do that is to pay deference to the incumbent veterans and try not to go into the situation with a high profile,” Steinberg said.
“We intentionally didn’t do endorsements that would run in the Kansas City area even though they were offered. We didn’t want him to be on billboards and everything when he wasn’t even playing.”
After laying low and turning down endorsement money as a rookie, Patrick Mahomes, right, is ingraining himself in the Kansas City community. (AP)
Mahomes takes over team with big expectations
Now Mahomes will be playing. And it’s time to cash in. The Chiefs traded Smith to the Washington Redskins in the offeason, putting the second-year quarterback with one NFL start on his resume squarely in the spotlight as the leader of a team with Super Bowl aspirations.
The Chiefs traded up in the 2017 draft to grab Mahomes with the 10th pick. When they had their playoff spot secured at the end of the season, coach Andy Reid gave Mahomes the Week 17 start in a meaningless game against the Denver Broncos. Mahomes was solid, leading the Chiefs to a 27-24 win while throwing for 284 yards and an interception.
Mahomes getting his face out in Kansas City
Now that the team is his, Mahomes told ESPN he’s getting his face out more in Kansas City by going to Royals games and other public events in town.
“The fans come out every single week and show passion and love for us and our team and what we’re doing here,” Mahomes said. “I want to be back in the community giving back and just being a part of it so I can show the same passion and love to them.
“It’s being able to be a part of the community. For me, I like being in the community of Kansas City. People are extremely nice and extremely passionate about the Chiefs and just about their culture. For me to just try to be a part of that and just immerse myself in the culture has been an awesome experience so far.”
The decision to lay low as a rookie seems a prudent one, even if it meant short-term financial sacrifice. If he continues to focus on leadership and lives up the big-armed hype that made him a a first-round pick, that endorsement money won’t be hard to come by [Reply]
Originally Posted by Coogs:
So you don't want Mahomes to throw the pass to Robinson with Von Miller hot on Mahomes's heels on the game winning drive in Denver? You want Smith's throw it away mentality to come through on that play instead?
Edit: This would be an interesting poll if someone could find the gif to put with it. Do you want to see Mahomes make these passes into triple coverage? Or should Andy neuter him and make him Smith like? Either he can make those passes or he can't, because you don't know the outcome before he throws them. And make the poll so you can see who votes what.
I want him making smart decisions and no, throwing into triple coverage is not a smart decision.
And I know the outcome of most throws in triple coverage. Saying we can't criticize the decision is ridiculous. Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
