Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
Every major vaccine roll out in the USA was done with pop up vaccine sites. We are not even considering them. We have millions of vaccines gathering dust. We have millions of willing arms waiting to get that vaccine. I'm not seeing any urgency to get us vaccinated ASAP by anyone involved.
State and local govt's that are responsible for the rollout are incompetent. They've had over 6 months to prepare for this and either didn't or have no clue how to efficiently vaccinate their citizens. I also tend to believe that the power and control over their populations is too attractive to give up this delaying the rollout.
They are getting vaccine stock in a slow enough schedule from the drug companies that they should be able to keep up. So either they are all incompetent idiots or doing the slow roll in purpose too maintain their power. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC Dan:
State and local govt's that are responsible for the rollout are incompetent. They've had over 6 months to prepare for this and either didn't or have no clue how to efficiently vaccinate their citizens. I also tend to believe that the power and control over their populations is too attractive to give up this delaying the rollout.
They are getting vaccine stock in a slow enough schedule from the drug companies that they should be able to keep up. So either they are all incompetent idiots or doing the slow roll in purpose too maintain their power.
I`ll stay away from the blame game as to keep this apolitical but i agree the responsibility falls on the City or County, whichever is in charge of local public health in your given area. After that you roll up to the State level. But yes, your local health department is initially responsible to implement who/what/where vaccinations occur. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jdubya:
I`ll stay away from the blame game as to keep this apolitical but i agree the responsibility falls on the City or County, whichever is in charge of local public health in your given area. After that you roll up to the State level. But yes, your local health department is initially responsible to implement who/what/where vaccinations occur.
No politics from me. All of them left or right are scummy incompetent boobs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by jdubya:
I`ll stay away from the blame game as to keep this apolitical but i agree the responsibility falls on the City or County, whichever is in charge of local public health in your given area. After that you roll up to the State level. But yes, your local health department is initially responsible to implement who/what/where vaccinations occur.
I think many were hoping that wouldn't be the case, though. As others have alluded to, I'm surprised that the national guard isn't heavily involved at least. It just seems like it would be more efficient to have a giant, coordinated effort rather than telling local health departments who are already buried to figure it out.
I know that it's a complicated beast, and it is what it is. Still sucks though. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
The US is a behemoth in terms of size and such. Getting this thing out as fast as we'd like wasn't gonna happen. It's actually going pretty well all things considered. Those numbers are laggy, so I'd guess we've gotten about 6 million total vaccines in arms at this point.
What sucks is with this new variant, now is when we really need to be able to distance and such, but that political will was blown a long ass time ago. There's vaccines so you'd be able to say "we see the end, we need to keep this thing beaten back for a month or so".
But that time has come and past.
Since most if not all of that possible number is only FIRST doses then we haven't really VACCINATED even one person. There are that estimated number that are half vaccinated. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I think many were hoping that wouldn't be the case, though. As others have alluded to, I'm surprised that the national guard isn't heavily involved at least. It just seems like it would be more efficient to have a giant, coordinated effort rather than telling local health departments who are already buried to figure it out.
I know that it's a complicated beast, and it is what it is. Still sucks though.
National guard is supposed to be there for national disasters. Help get water/food into devastated areas. This is a national disaster that effects everyone. We need them sitting up vaccine tents. Bringing in nurses, medics to put the shots into arms.
Let the local health people keep the records. Make the lines and policy about who goes first. Still local control. Come on, those soldiers would love this task. Make a huge difference in people’s lives. Probably their neighbors too. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC Dan:
No politics from me. All of them left or right are scummy incompetent boobs.
none here either. The same issues are occurring everywhere. The last guy is on his way out, the next guy on his way in. No one seems to be in charge except for incompetent local buffoons or politicians looking for an edge in the next election. Those idiots are in both of the major parties. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
none here either. The same issues are occurring everywhere. The last guy is on his way out, the next guy on his way in. No one seems to be in charge except for incompetent local buffoons or politicians looking for an edge in the next election. Those idiots are in both of the major parties.
100%!!! When this crap finally settles, I will visit the Gulf Coast and hopefully some of your awesome grilling. I so remember that at the home games. [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC Dan:
100%!!! When this crap finally settles, I will visit the Gulf Coast and hopefully some of your awesome grilling. I so remember that at the home games.
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
National guard is supposed to be there for national disasters. Help get water/food into devastated areas. This is a national disaster that effects everyone. We need them sitting up vaccine tents. Bringing in nurses, medics to put the shots into arms.
Let the local health people keep the records. Make the lines and policy about who goes first. Still local control. Come on, those soldiers would love this task. Make a huge difference in people’s lives. Probably their neighbors too.
Maybe we should have them yank people out of their homes and take them to the tents as well? [Reply]
Originally Posted by stevieray:
...and Jaggerbombs!
No on the Jager. Last time was after an AC/DC concert in Vancouver BC at a Jager bar and had to fly to Japan for work the next morning. Not good at all... [Reply]
Originally Posted by KC Dan:
No on the Jager. Last time was after an AC/DC concert in Vancouver BC at a Jager bar and had to fly to Japan for work the next morning. Not good at all...
Originally Posted by KC Dan:
100%!!! When this crap finally settles, I will visit the Gulf Coast and hopefully some of your awesome grilling. I so remember that at the home games.
Originally Posted by stevieray:
...and Jaggerbombs!
Originally Posted by KC Dan:
No on the Jager. Last time was after an AC/DC concert in Vancouver BC at a Jager bar and had to fly to Japan for work the next morning. Not good at all...
we will get you another refreshing beverage. That’s just more Jagerbombs for Me and Stevie. :-) [Reply]
Get your place in line for the COVID-19 vaccine in Jackson County (MO) right now
Thanks to an online portal, Jackson County residents can now claim their place in line for COVID-19 vaccinations.
By clicking forward into the Jackson County Vaccine Survey Tool (link is active in the article), you can get your foot in the door for the solution to getting the world back to normal, opening up the economy, and ending the rising death toll. The survey takes less than two minutes, asks only a few basic questions, and then registers you for notification via email/text for the earliest local availability for you to get a passport back to Regular Times.
Please get your name on the list at the earliest opportunity, and make sure to send this link to friends and family in the metro. Let’s finally beat this thing.
We’ll update this piece if new information or registration opportunities become available in the region. [Reply]
