I dont disagree with that. Artists for sure lose money, especially musicians. The days of getting rich off selling albums are all but gone. Most artists generate their revenue by touring these days. But you also have to acknowledge that illegal downloading has gained a lot of musicians fans that may have never given them a chance before had it not been so easy to obtain their music. Its a different time, some musicians fight it while some embrace it and make their fortunes other ways.
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absolutely. ...agree with you on this part

and furthermore the record industry was WAYYYY to slow/late in adapting to the days of mp3 etc... they let napster and kazaa etc screw them when they couldve been the ones providing the content song-by-song

they cost themslves a ton of cash by resisting mp3 and trying to stop it rather than just letting people bu ya song for 99 cents like itunes finally did or whatever YEARS later..

I do agree with your main point, its a double edged sword , especially for music.

movies and tv shows, really...not so much though. You arent guaranteed to like a movie when you pay for one....and most people watch a movie or tv show once.....and they dont do tours.... so i think really the movie and tv industry is who is hurt most these days


just a guess though, i mainly use pandora / spotify for music...very very VERY rarely do i feel the need to buy something these days (music wise)

I do buy movies and tv shows though, mainly through amazon so I can watch them from any device, anywhere..and mainly for my kids
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Either way my answer will be: I was just using it, I was going to give it back.


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If you steal money out of someones "unlocked" car and try it out (for personal use) 'it is something that causes Someone is out of a tangible item, something they possessed. You cannot just delete it and have things go back to as they were before, and not have harmed anyone.

Downloading a song/ TV show to listen to/watch and later deleting it does not harm anyone. They can argue that it does but the chances of me buying said song/ program are next to nil in the first place so there is no actual loss.

I would have to say that a motion picture is another story as when you pay for them you never acquire any ownership. It is sold as a pay per view and therefore would be stealing.

I will sit back and let you throw eggs and tomatoes at me but: HBO's Real Time, network late night shows, Sunday Morning, and others are broadcast/ streamed on Youtube and other sites at no charge. According to others:-) porn is able to be watched on line at no cost, yet you want to call it stealing if it's down loaded to watch when you are not on line?
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But you can listen to the same song free on line, on the radio at no cost?

Are you saying that possession of said artistic work, property is the same as theft? I would/ may have to agree with that. I don't have (much) copyrighted property on my puter that would be considered stolen other than pictures that are posted by others on sites just like this, ripped from my own sources, or copied from sites who don't own them either.
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What if the gate is unlocked and you just use it and leave it as it was? Sure it was not yours to use but was it stealing?
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No, that's trespassing, unless you have permission to be on the property and then you're ok. :-)
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If you credit info is already able to be viewed by me, on line, for free, why would it be stealing if I copied the information for later reading? Your trash can is not able to be copied, it is a tangible item.

If I were to hack Sony pictures servers and shared the data, I would be stealing, If I found the same data from Sony's servers posted on line and copied it, would that be stealing?
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You mean 3 pages later that you realized that the kid could be stealing but he may not be? Do you realize that watching the NFL clips and GIFs here are stealing in your opinion but you watch then anyway.
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A) you read this wrong..if you take something that doesn't belong to you, without permission....it's stealing....that's my position

B) yes I admit I watch them anyway , and it is stealing. I'm honest about it. I also speed, cheat a little on taxes...and look at chick's asses and titties even though I'm married
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TV sure has changed as once all TV was paid for by advertising or sponsorships (advertising). The people who made tv shows got paid on the number of people they estimated their program was viewed by. We brought out VCRs to record and watch at our own convenience and TV didn't care as they were no getting more people watching their commercials.

Then paid / subscription TV began and a battle of recording and sharing of content began and has been going on ever since...

If I want to watch Vice News I go tohttps://www.youtube.com/user/vicenews/videos and watch the stories I want to see. If I download to watch off line then you say I am stealing from HBO and Bill Maher???



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No clue about bill Maher specifically but in general, if you download content that circumvents the artist or producer getting paid I would say yes. If you watch a show through a YouTube partner, they get paid.

If your source of income was YouTube revenue, would you be OK with people torrenting it to cut you out of the picture? I'm sure you'd be fine with it right?
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Trespassing must be posted :-):-):-) no really, opening the door of an unlocked car or house is not a crime, failing to exit said house or car when told to do so is trespassing.

You won'y find any judge who would find otherwise.
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All of those are expected, the ones in bold are not illegal.:-):-):-):-):-)



Should have impeached him when they had the chance...
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No! They do not get paid for posting, They get paid by clicks generated for the most part..
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