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rico 11:01 PM 10-06-2013


As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."

I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.

So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:

Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.

Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.

Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.

Thoughts?

DISCUS!!!!


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cosmo20002 08:20 PM 03-04-2015
Originally Posted by mr. tegu:
He is serving an important purpose. Saul still wants to please him and be a legitimate lawyer. You can start to see how he is going to have a real conflict of interests with regards to staying honest and pleasing his brother or being tempted by other means of income.

Factoring in the brother seemingly being manipulative of Saul and Saul feeling that he owes his brother for helping him out of big trouble in the flashback and you have an interesting dynamic.
Yeah, I get that, but that just doesn't seem that interesting. So he wants to please his brother. Meh.
And that he has some kind of kooky condition. Just seems like it is just something weird for the sake of being weird. I guess I should have more faith in the writers.

The one good aspect of it is that is leads to Saul's interactions with the douchebag law partner. Those are pretty good.
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cosmo20002 08:22 PM 03-04-2015
Originally Posted by Otter:
Who would win in no holds barred fight to the death? Paco or Tommy DeSimone (Joe Pesci's character in Goodfellas)?
What show is he on?
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'Hamas' Jenkins 08:34 PM 03-04-2015
Originally Posted by Otter:
Who would win in no holds barred fight to the death? Paco or Tommy DeSimone (Joe Pesci's character in Goodfellas)?
Are you talking about Tuco? Tuco would eat DeSimone's sawed off ass so quickly he'd need half the Tums in ABQ to settle down his heartburn.
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Fire Me Boy! 09:01 PM 03-04-2015
Originally Posted by Cave Johnson:
Not sure if serious, but the daily local newspaper isn't delivered by mail.

Actually, many are. Totally depends on whether they run a route near the delivery. I grew up with my father the publisher and printer of a newspaper in SWMO, and we mailed more than got thrown.
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Baby Lee 10:41 PM 03-04-2015
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
And that he has some kind of kooky condition. Just seems like it is just something weird for the sake of being weird.
Weird, but not created out of whole cloth. There are entire communities in the eastern mountain ranges and rural mountain west for people claiming electromagnetism sensitivity.

Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
http://www.emfanalysis.com/emf-refugee/

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RobBlake 01:09 AM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
Are you talking about Tuco? Tuco would eat DeSimone's sawed off ass so quickly he'd need half the Tums in ABQ to settle down his heartburn.
yeah.. not even close... tuco is an insane mother effer.

love this series.

I didn't check entire thread..

but there is a conspiracy theory of red and blue being a significant theme of good vs evil
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Baby Lee 12:44 PM 03-05-2015
Excellent defense of the slow take

http://www.avclub.com/article/86-sec...lowness-216041
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Baby Lee 12:46 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by Otter:
Who would win in no holds barred fight to the death? Paco or Tommy DeSimone (Joe Pesci's character in Goodfellas)?
Better fight would be Tuco on BB/BCS versus Det. Sanchez on The Closer/Major Crimes
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siberian khatru 01:01 PM 03-05-2015
I've been re-watching Breaking Bad with my wife and son, who haven't seen it before, and last night we hit "Open House" in Season 4. In that episode Marie is showing up at open houses, pretending to be a different person each time, and stealing stuff. At one of the houses she lifts ... a Hummel figurine.

Perfect timing, as I had forgotten that and hadn't made the connection during Sunday night's Better Call Saul.

I have no idea if the figurine she stole was part of the old lady's collection in Saul, but I'm 100 percent sure they were different houses.
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Buehler445 01:07 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by siberian khatru:
I've been re-watching Breaking Bad with my wife and son, who haven't seen it before, and last night we hit "Open House" in Season 4. In that episode Marie is showing up at open houses, pretending to be a different person each time, and stealing stuff. At one of the houses she lifts ... a Hummel figurine.

Perfect timing, as I had forgotten that and hadn't made the connection during Sunday night's Better Call Saul.

I have no idea if the figurine she stole was part of the old lady's collection in Saul, but I'm 100 percent sure they were different houses.
Holy shit.
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mikeyis4dcats. 01:48 PM 03-05-2015
I was suprised afterwards when I saw the ep title. What a wierd thing to key on. Gotta have some significance.
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frankotank 02:15 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Better fight would be Tuco on BB/BCS versus Det. Sanchez on The Closer/Major Crimes
Tuco and Mike
I'd put my money on Tuco, but......I don't think Mike would make it easy
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Baby Lee 02:30 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.:
I was suprised afterwards when I saw the ep title. What a wierd thing to key on. Gotta have some significance.
Word is, it was initially titled 'Jello' but the owners of the Jello trademark were too interested in their continued ties with Bill Cosby to grant licensing.*


* - Last part about Cosby is snark, initial title info is true. Middle part about licensing is supposition on why they changed the title.
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mikeyis4dcats. 03:06 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Word is, it was initially titled 'Jello' but the owners of the Jello trademark were too interested in their continued ties with Bill Cosby to grant licensing.*


* - Last part about Cosby is snark, initial title info is true. Middle part about licensing is supposition on why they changed the title.
Wierd tho....why not call it Gelatin?
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eDave 03:11 PM 03-05-2015
Originally Posted by frankotank:
Tuco and Mike
I'd put my money on Tuco, but......I don't think Mike would make it easy
If you can bring weapons, my scratch is on BB Mike. No question. He's an assassin.
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