As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."
I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.
So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:
Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.
Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.
Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.
Originally Posted by Sure-Oz:
What was the revenge quote at the end about? Also the dedication part on the water display who was that?
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
His partner the Salamonkas killed, I think it was in BB. Fring is doing all this and did what he did to Tuco and Hector because they killed his partner.
Mike got ran out of Philly because he killed those dirty cops that killed his son.
To expand, Max is Max Arciniega, the guy Hector Salamanca brained on Don Eladio's orders poolside at his hacienda while Gus was restrained and forced to watch. Max and Gus were longtime friends [possibly amorous]. They started the chicken AND meth business together after Gus paid for Max's education in biochemistry. Hector and Don were the big dogs with the cocaine and heroin routes who 'put Gus in his place' with his upstart meth racket.
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
His partner the Salamonkas killed, I think it was in BB. Fring is doing all this and did what he did to Tuco and Hector because they killed his partner.
Mike got ran out of Philly because he killed those dirty cops that killed his son.
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
To expand, Max is Max Arciniega, the guy Hector Salamanca brained on Don Eladio's orders poolside at his hacienda while Gus was restrained and forced to watch. Max and Gus were longtime friends [possibly amorous]. They started the chicken AND meth business together after Gus paid for Max's education in biochemistry. Hector and Don were the big dogs with the cocaine and heroin routes who 'put Gus in his place' with his upstart meth racket.
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
To expand, Max is Max Arciniega, the guy Hector Salamanca brained on Don Eladio's orders poolside at his hacienda while Gus was restrained and forced to watch. Max and Gus were longtime friends [possibly amorous]. They started the chicken AND meth business together after Gus paid for Max's education in biochemistry. Hector and Don were the big dogs with the cocaine and heroin routes who 'put Gus in his place' with his upstart meth racket.
That was the origin of the revenge and the war.
I think there was a confirmation at some point that Max and Gus were lovers, and the way Gus has acted makes it seem as if Max was the love of his life. [Reply]
Originally Posted by listopencil:
I think there was a confirmation at some point that Max and Gus were lovers, and the way Gus has acted makes it seem as if Max was the love of his life.
Best I can do:
As told by: Vince Gilligan
Gus is a man who had one Achilles Heel, as far as we know: His burning desire for vengeance against the people who killed Max, who was very important to him. We don’t tend to nail things down on Breaking Bad. It’s fun to be a little mysterious, and it’s nice to have the audience come up with backstories on their own. Having said that, I personally think Max was more than just a friend to Gus. I think they probably were lovers. And therefore it was understandably a very crushing, terrible loss for Gus, one that he would never forget. That one bit of emotion that he allowed himself ultimately proved to be his undoing.
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
I’m really surprised at Kim going with such a thinly veiled subversive attack on Mesa Verde. Is she just sick of their shit or what? Try to get what she wants like Jimmy and it blows up in her face?
They’ve been laying the groundwork for how much she hates it for a long time. It’s just surprising to see her go full self-destruct.
If I had to guess, her recklessness is a prelude to getting disbarred. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
They’ve been laying the groundwork for how much she hates it for a long time. It’s just surprising to see her go full self-destruct.
My impression is that Kim revels in drama and risk taking.
She's bored when it's just straight lawering but thrives going "against the system" and fighting for the "little guy".
Maybe she takes it one step too far, which is why she's not in BB. [Reply]
Originally Posted by listopencil:
I think there was a confirmation at some point that Max and Gus were lovers, and the way Gus has acted makes it seem as if Max was the love of his life.
Not sure it was ever confirmed. I bet it's something totally different. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Saul putting the artifacts in the ground and the ground up batteries to stall them was just epic stuff. That's just how he would have operated in Breaking Bad. Such a sheister.
