Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
The whole “isn’t #1 on his team” thing is not a good factor to review when the other guys are good, too.
You could have made that complaint about Garret Wilson and Chris Olave. Or Justin Jefferson. Jameson Williams was the #3 guy behind those two at Ohio State.
Being #2 option behind a guy who clearly is getting drafted in the top 5 picks or top 10 picks.
So I don’t like it’s a knock on Egbuka at all that he isn’t the top target at Ohio State
To me, if you can get him at a discount because he’s playing with Harrison and has a bad QB, that’s a win.
Ok, that's fair, but how about the guys like Keon Coleman who's production really isn't that great. I think PFF has him as the #3 WR and Draftbuzz has him #9, currently. Is his QB play really so poor, and his route running and athletic profile so noticeable that he warrants such a lofty ranking with under 600 yards? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Draftbuzz upgrade Legette to #3 WR in their class btw... just stirring the pot for the discussion here.
Legette and Malachi Corley are both really intriguing to me. Legette, with only one year of production, is a burner and an absolute bully with the ball in his hands. His size/speed combo is really impressive. Corley is a former RB and it shows when he's in the open field. He's tough to bring down and a problem for tacklers.
I'm not sure either one can claim a good route tree or, despite their athletic profiles, create consistent separation, but they are RAC monsters. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato:
Ok, that's fair, but how about the guys like Keon Coleman who's production really isn't that great. I think PFF has him as the #3 WR and Draftbuzz has him #9, currently. Is his QB play really so poor, and his route running and athletic profile so noticeable that he warrants such a lofty ranking with under 600 yards?
Production in college is about a lot of things.
- Quality of your teammates
- Quality of your QB
- Style of offense
- What the D tries to take away
Coleman has accounted for 23 percent of his offenses' passing offense. Malik Nabors, for example, has accounted for 30 percent of his.
So what gives? Here's one thing, if we stick with that comparison.
Well, Florida State's QB isn't the running threat that Jayden Daniels is, so teams when I've watched FSU typically have a safety over the top of Coleman or even are playing in a two-deep shell.
LSU gets its guys in 1x1 a lot more simply because of the numbers game and defenses trying to account for Daniels' legs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Production in college is about a lot of things.
- Quality of your teammates
- Quality of your QB
- Style of offense
- What the D tries to take away
Coleman has accounted for 23 percent of his offenses' passing offense. Malik Nabors, for example, has accounted for 30 percent of his.
So what gives? Here's one thing, if we stick with that comparison.
Well, Florida State's QB isn't the running threat that Jayden Daniels is, so teams when I've watched FSU typically have a safety over the top of Coleman or even are playing in a two-deep shell.
LSU gets its guys in 1x1 a lot more simply because of the numbers game and defenses trying to account for Daniels' legs.
Appreciate the input! I simply watch zero college football so my impressions come from stats, draft profiles/rankings, and highlight reels which leaves much to be desired. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Troy Franklin would compliment Rice so well!
Like rice & beans!
Yep. I have a hard time looking at other prospects with the same level of excitement. Rice and Franklin look alot to me like AJ Brown and Devonta Smith in Philly. Add in a nice slot option like Mooney and you have a pretty good looking set of receivers. [Reply]
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Yep. I have a hard time looking at other prospects with the same level of excitement. Rice and Franklin look alot to me like AJ Brown and Devonta Smith in Philly. Add in a nice slot option like Mooney and you have a pretty good looking set of receivers.
Franklin seems like an easy plug-and-play replacement for all the deep overs, posts, and crossers KC likes to run.
And I like Mooney a BUNCH as a complementary Z type. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
Someone sell me on Mooney. Doesn't move my needle.
I mean, in his first two seasons, which were with Nagy, he had 61-631-4 and 81-1055-4. He's 5'10" 180 and runs a 4.38. So basically, a much better version of Hardman.
Since Nagy left, the Bears haven't used him worth a shit. [Reply]