In a way, I'm glad this happened.. so I won't really give a shit about the wait for next season. I have to figure I'll watch.. but this show has really turned to a point where I wouldn't miss it.

They could have just been ambushed and killed at the end... show over.. and that would have been fine.

There is only one series I can think of that has had a lousier finale. That was the show's true ending.. and the main character's name was Vic Mackey.

:-)
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I raise you a lumberjack
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You didn't watch Dexter, did you? Worst. Finale. Ever.
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This makes the most sense. I can't think of too many characters that wouldn't break the rule of instant retaliation.. therefore Carl's other eye removed.

If it were Maggie, half of them would instantly retaliate.. especially Glenn. Same goes for Sasha (Abe).. the kid (Rick).. Mishone (Rick).. Glenn (Maggie)... Rosita (Abe) .. doubt Eugene would absorb multiple hits..

I'm disgusted that Rick didn't do everything he could to fall on the sword. As a leader, he should have. Instead.. a terrified, quivering worm. Too bad Shane didn't survive that encounter instead.
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I remember very much disliking the end, yes.. but I don't really remember all of why.
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That's interesting. Like Barret, I came away thinking the scenes hinted pretty heavily to it being Abraham.
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I'm going with Abraham or Eugene. Just hope it wasn't Carl. He's a good kid/cyclopse.
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I think its Abraham.
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You weren't paying attention if you think it even possibly could be Carl or Rick.

Negan told his group to "cut the kid's other eye out and feed it to his dad" if anyone moved.
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It's gotta be Abraham... And people saying they quit will atleast watch the premier
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At least GOT starts in 3 weeks, and Preacher is coming soon too
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The slowed down audio seems to make it clear who died

http://carl-greyems.tumblr.com/priva...deaiypi1v88mdc

I guess this is audio that leaked beforehand and didn't air in the broadcast. Maybe they shot it for multiple people.
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I see a lot of it has to be Abraham. Is that because you guys know he is dead in the comics or because he looked up an Negan?

What if Negan saw his looking up to him as a sign of strength so he would want to keep him around. I mean why take out a strong guy when you can make the same point taking out a much weaker guy like Glenn.

I don't think that Negan would be too worried about keeping Abe alive and worrying he was going to try to come get him. Looking at some of those guys in Negan's crew he seems to have some pretty big dudes until control.
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I agree with this. My money is on Glenn, Daryl, or Eugene, and I can see any of those three staying conscious after a hit.
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I look forward to learning who died via a leak sometime later.

Eugene said an awful lot of good-byes last night and handed off his bullet plan. And he looks weak to Negan.
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