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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Trump suggests delaying November election
Fish 09:33 AM 07-30-2020
:-)

With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 30, 2020

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alnorth 02:12 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
I work in Oregon elections.

And just so you’re aware....election fraud is claimed by both sides.
Yeah, crazy and/or stupid people claim crazy and stupid things all the time. We occasionally find a few dozen cases of fraud out of millions of votes cast, too. (usually by Republicans, oddly enough. Projection!)
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The Franchise 02:13 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by Shields68:
I think that those states that did mass mailings had 1,000's of ballots tossed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...tting-n1233833

California Primary rejected- 14,000 ballots for people who forgot to sign, another 13,000 for mismatched signatures, and 70,000 for arriving to late.

Wisconsin more then 20,000 rejected and another 69,000 for arriving to late.

Seems most states rejected 1-2% of mail in ballots in the primaries.

That does not even count NY's sorry attempt.
So they were not tossed but denied because of laws that are in place.

And in California....if you don’t sign or your signature doesn’t match....then you’re notified so you can come correct the issue.

And postmarks are accepted after Election Day.

Not seeing ballots being tossed....only denied because of laws that are in place.
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Bump 02:13 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by alnorth:
Yeah, crazy and/or stupid people claim crazy and stupid things all the time. We occasionally find a few dozen cases of fraud out of millions of votes cast, too. (usually by Republicans, oddly enough. Projection!)
lol

just make shit up.
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jerryaldini 02:14 PM 07-30-2020
Never thought Trump's narcissism would allow him to be willing to so transparently display that he's running scared. I guess staying in power means so much to him that he's willing to further erode his last vestiges of personal pride.

We can send kids back to school for a semester in crowded classrooms but can't have an election where masked people socially distance standing in line for 30 minutes, or better yet vote by mail.
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BucEyedPea 02:14 PM 07-30-2020
The Democrats always pulls this stuff.

JFK-Nixon—Mafia stuffs ballots in Chicago
Bush-Gore—the election was stolen because of the SC, when final Florida counts later showed Bush still still won there. But the Democrats only wanted to recount heavy Democrat counties. That's what caused the SC interference.
2016 — The Russians interfered for Trump so it's illegitimate.

I'd even add, when Bill Clinton called Perot to run, so the R vote would be divided. When it looked like Perot might win, he left the race.

They pass laws to make what was once iellgal ballot stuffing to be legal ballot harvesting. Pelosi tried to pass a bill allowing illegals to vote. Democrats have argued for allowing 16 year olds to vote. Ballots were brought into prisons in some areas during other elections. Think it was during the Mid-Terms or a governor race. They push to allow felons to vote. They release felons from prison during Covid. It NEVER ends with them. They can't win on their ideas.
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Just Passin' By 02:15 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by Bump:
lol

just make shit up.
It's all he's got.
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alnorth 02:16 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by jerryaldini:
Never thought Trump's narcissism would allow him to be willing to so transparently display that he's running scared. I guess staying in power means so much to him that he's willing to further erode his last vestiges of personal pride.

We can send kids back to school for a semester in crowsed classrooms but can't have an election where masked people socially distance standing in line for 30 minutes, or better yet vote by mail.
There is nothing he is more afraid of than public humiliation. Nothing is worse than that to him, and he's headed for a very public and very humiliating national rejection which will be laughed at in the history books forever. His worst nightmare is approaching.
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BucEyedPea 02:18 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by jerryaldini:
Never thought Democrats power-hunger would allow him to be willing to so transparently display that he's running scared. I guess staying in power means so much to him that he's willing to further erode his last vestiges of personal pride.

We can send kids back to school for a semester in crowded classrooms but can't have an election where masked people socially distance standing in line for 30 minutes, or better yet vote by mail.
FYP
Alinsky's Rules for Radicals

RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

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Shields68 02:18 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
So they were not tossed but denied because of laws that are in place.

And in California....if you don’t sign or your signature doesn’t match....then you’re notified so you can come correct the issue.

And postmarks are accepted after Election Day.

Not seeing ballots being tossed....only denied because of laws that are in place.
OK regardless you either have someone who thought they voted and did not end up having their vote counted or a lot of fraud which makes you wonder if they caught it all. Not sure either is a good look.
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The Franchise 02:19 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by Shields68:
OK regardless you either have someone who thought they voted and did not end up having their vote counted or a lot of fraud which makes you wonder if they caught it all. Not sure either is a good look.
So then what is your solution?
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Detoxing 02:19 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by alnorth:
There is nothing he is more afraid of than public humiliation. Nothing is worse than that to him, and he's headed for a very public and very humiliating national rejection which will be laughed at in the history books forever. His worst nightmare is approaching.
Geez, i wouldn't be so confident about that.

Trump WILL win this.

Look around you, man. These conservatives are as paranoid and fearful as ever. Their base is motivated. Trump and Fox News keep these guys on edge about something seemingly every day.

I don't think the Dem base is nearly as empowered as conservatives are right now.
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alnorth 02:21 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Geez, i wouldn't be so confident about that.

Trump WILL win this.

Look around you, man. These conservatives are as paranoid and fearful as ever. Their base is motivated. Trump and Fox News keep these guys on edge about something seemingly every day.

I don't think the Dem base is nearly as empowered as conservatives are right now.
lol

Trump is so scared he's publicly demanding that his day of reckoning be put off.
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BucEyedPea 02:23 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
So they were not tossed but denied because of laws that are in place.

And in California....if you don’t sign or your signature doesn’t match....then you’re notified so you can come correct the issue.

And postmarks are accepted after Election Day.

Not seeing ballots being tossed....only denied because of laws that are in place.
Alinksy's Rules for Radicals
RULE 3: “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.”
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Shields68 02:24 PM 07-30-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
So then what is your solution?
Not sure there is a good solution and it does not matter what my solution is. But it is going to be entertaining and there is a good chance the courts are involved and it is not over on election day. Also not sure I fault either candidate for looking at the system very close and making sure it was fair.
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BucEyedPea 02:25 PM 07-30-2020
The left argues for putting off opening the country, putting off opening schools to mock and ridicule Trump. So when Trump proposes doing as they do they go ape shit. Can NOT make it up!

These Alinsky tactics are 50 years old.

What Alinsky, and his followers, failed to comprehend is that they created a whole generation of people who cannot see beyond screaming criticism and offer any modern day solutions to social problems beyond a social shift to the hungry and dreary world of socialism/communism – something they definitely do not actually want to happen.

The counter reaction to this situation has been the rise of the humongous populist movement that elected Donald Trump. [movement that is global] This group doesn’t put up with Alinsky-like nonsense. They outnumber the Alinski-ites 100,000 to 1.

https://bolenreport.com/saul-alinsky...ules-radicals/

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