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Nzoner's Game Room>Any fishkeepers here? Saltwater or freshwater
Silock 04:02 AM 11-16-2011
I'm looking at starting up a saltwater tank. Is there a good fish store in the KC area without driving out to Lawrence?
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Rasputin 10:43 PM 10-28-2016
Huh I never seen a needlefish before thanks Easy 6 we both learned something today.

That's pretty cool the needlefish looks like he has propellers like a submarine.
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Rasputin 12:02 AM 10-29-2016
I love my algae fish The Kraken but all he does is poop he poops more and more as he is getting bigger and bigger. Big long poops.
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Fish 01:00 AM 10-29-2016
I've still got some brawling going on in my tank...


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Rasputin 10:19 AM 10-29-2016
Originally Posted by Fish:
I've still got some brawling going on in my tank...

I like the smaller one he doesn't back down no he won't back down.



Now I have a Tom Petty song in my head and now everyone has a Tom Petty song in their head.


He could be standing at the gates of hell but he won't back down
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SAUTO 12:50 PM 10-29-2016
Fuck Tom petty
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Rasputin 01:55 PM 10-29-2016
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO:
Fuck Tom petty
Yeah that was necessary to the thread :-)
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SAUTO 06:04 PM 10-29-2016
Originally Posted by KC Tattoo:
Yeah that was necessary to the thread :-)
About as necessary as yours.
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Rasputin 06:10 PM 10-29-2016
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO:
About as necessary as yours.
Mine was complementing one of the fish Fish posted so yeah it kinda was.


But that's ok you can hate on Tom Petty I'm meh & not curr now.
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Mr. Flopnuts 06:41 PM 10-29-2016
I'm thinking about getting an Arowana. Who knows what about them?
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Rasputin 06:49 PM 10-29-2016
Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts:
I'm thinking about getting an Arowana. Who knows what about them?
This guy seems to know about them but I've never heard of them but look cool if you can get a big big tank I think.


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Rasputin 06:54 PM 10-29-2016
Those seem like cool fish I'd like to have if I had pond but they grow too fast for my tank size.
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Holladay 02:07 AM 10-30-2016
BIG fish, Arowana. I have had a few. Unless you do a pond or 500g tank. Voraious.
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Holladay 02:56 AM 10-30-2016
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Depends on the unit but they start reasonable and then can be considered high. But you will never buy another light
I will call them on monday. Getting tired of finding a decent forum or lighting reviews. I really don't wanna plunk down $300 for a timed light...and need another for the 30g. Thus +$400 for led lights. I might have to bit the bullet for the amazing lights thou.
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Holladay 12:43 AM 11-02-2016
If this is a Q...bite me. Man cave.

Nice test. I BROKE THE CODE. I am old and asked the son how to post a pic off the phone. Won't go into it but, click, post to Gmail, send to persl email, click as attachment, post as attachment and SHAZAM.

Keep in mind there are 3 types of filtration: Chemical (Carbon), Biological (bacterial beds), and Physical (filters..fish poop)



See walls behind TV...future water ref. I like the stuffed fish motif. Dad and G-mom catches.



See below as to the "Verruckt". The small pink cichlid is about to go into it. At the top right corner, you can see the spout, the pvc at 45 degree angle.



Just shot this with the "moon" phase of the LED....cool. Could have had lightning going off as well, but they are sleeping.



The tank is ecletic. How can an Oscar be in a community tank you ask. Along with Jack Dempseys? Gouramis? Silver Dollars? small malawi cichlids/giant dimios (oscar food)? Answer is how they were raised. (I am an old person; Patience is the key. I have planned many tanks and this one for years, since I was 15, so what is 2 yrs to grow the perfect tank?) The Oscar was one of the last fish added to the tank. He grew up with his friends and has not been fed live food. Can he be a bully, yup. He faces off with the mated Demepsey pair...2 against one. He eats out of my hand. Supposably they play with ping pong balls. I am going to slowly go back to a malawi tank.

There is 250lbs of rocks/boulders for the fish to hide in. I have tried to stack them up, and they fall down. Thus used strong tupperware frames(with shale glued to the sides) and composite deck post siding squares (hard to see below Oscar on the left) cut to make hidy holes.
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Holladay 01:00 AM 11-02-2016
More pics

OK. Here is the guts of the perfect tank: A Reverse Flow Over Engineered Under Gravel Filter Tank. Reverse Flow: water goes down the tubes (400g/hr x 3) and pushes the water up into the water column. Over engineered Under Gravel: water comes up through the under gravel filter plate where there are layers of blue/white filter media separated "egg shell" light diffuser (not gonna post a pic..too late) what goes underneath fluorescent lights) x 3, then covered with window screen tucked around the edges. This provides (in my tank) 96 sq ft of filter (bacteria beds). And the water is pushed up into the water column to the reverse power head filter suck up the gunk. I haven't vacuumed my tank in 5 years. Additionally, with 250 lbs of boulders, would create "dead" pockets for nitrates to form. With the egg crate stuff, there is still water circulating under neath. The gravel in the tank is just a veneer...something for the fish (cichlids) to play with and move around...something that is a detriment for traditional under gravel filters. The only way, though, that I can have a planted tank is with "potted" plants, which I have done.

You can see the power heads next to the Oscar and the window screen under him, because they moved all the gravel off the bottom. Additionally, I have 2 x emperor penguin 400 hang on the back filters that do another 800g/hr filtertration with carbon clam shell inserts.



This is the fun part. All that pvc plumbing is the "Verruckt" for fish. I have a "Pondmaster" pond pump (1500g/hr..see garden hose) that just circulates water with the corner spout set at a 45 degree angle. The fish LOVE to play in that down current. The added advantage is that the inlet, which has a filter sponge, filters the fish crap that is coming up off the gravel bed. See the grey square filter behind the white vert pipe.






Lastly...then bed time...to the left of the door you can barely see a funnel waist high. And to the right of the tank, a water faucet. I live in the country, thus no chlorine etc in the water...well water. I don't have to use 5g buckets to do water changes. Using to "Pondmaster" pump, I switch valves to re-direct the "garden hose" Verruckt into the funnel which is piped behind the walls (see first pic) into a sump pump, which pumps out into the yard. Then using the water faucet next to the tank on the right side, filler back up!! To do a 1/2 water change (60g) takes 15 min.



In the end, one doesn't have to go to this extreme. I am lucky in that living in the country with the water issues. Also lucky in having the tank built into the wall with access behind. Having said all that, again lucky, I spend 5 min a day, just in feeding the critters. I don't even have to do that. I have "auto" feeders.

But it is humorous, while the wife and I visit in the man cave, she sits on the bar stools, me at my desk, and she looks only at the fish tank
:-) or :-)

Lastly I will suggest a nice fish food recipe: ...opps, just fed a wolf spider to the fish: canned oysters, pink salmon, tuna, white crab, tiny shrimp. Blend carefully (burnt 2 blenders thus far), put in ice cube trays, freeze and feed. That is where the Oscar eats outta my hand. This is a supplement, flakes, algae wafers (bottom feeders) et. al.

PS. the shot glasses on top of the penguin filters are to catch fruit flies. Put in some whiskey as they are alcoholics.
PSS. I don't post much, because I don't have much to add. You all have much more football knowledge then I do. Thus my limited contribution to a football site. Now it is an "official" football thread.
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