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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Donger 03:21 PM 08-29-2020
Originally Posted by TLO:
Well... I did post this link to an article yesterday.
There's not much to that, is there. What previously tests? What were the false positive rates?
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BigCatDaddy 03:54 PM 08-29-2020
Is it just me or has there been a huge push to get shit back to normal regardless or cases the last week or so? Big 10 football talking about playing in November, Suburban KCI voting 27-0 to play fall sports, positive cases out the ass at Universitys and we just go full speed ahead as planned. I think Covid fatigue has set in and people are done with dancing around it.
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Hawker007 04:21 PM 08-29-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
Is it just me or has there been a huge push to get shit back to normal regardless or cases the last week or so? Big 10 football talking about playing in November, Suburban KCI voting 27-0 to play fall sports, positive cases out the ass at Universitys and we just go full speed ahead as planned. I think Covid fatigue has set in and people are done with dancing around it.
Well, what is the fatality rate if you are under 65 with no comorbidities?
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BigCatDaddy 04:51 PM 08-29-2020
Originally Posted by Hawker007:
Well, what is the fatality rate if you are under 65 with no comorbidities?
I'm not complaining. It just feels like there has been a major shift recently.
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Hawker007 04:57 PM 08-29-2020
Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy:
I'm not complaining. It just feels like there has been a major shift recently.
Oh ya, and I didn’t mean to imply that at all. I actually don’t know what it is and I’m wondering myself because that’s a big reason IMO. And, you know, an election is coming up 😉
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petegz28 05:27 PM 08-29-2020
Originally Posted by Hawker007:
Well, what is the fatality rate if you are under 65 with no comorbidities?
Nationally I don't know. Here in Johnson County, Ks there have been 9 deaths of people under the age of 69 with the youngest being 29. Also I do not know what the comorbidity situation was. Nonetheless it comes out to .1%.
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Pasta Little Brioni 06:07 PM 08-29-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Nationally I don't know. Here in Johnson County, Ks there have been 9 deaths of people under the age of 69 with the youngest being 29. Also I do not know what the comorbidity situation was. Nonetheless it comes out to .1%.
But cases!!! Even though up to 90 percent of them are likely bogus and or harmless..99.9 percent of the time most people will be fine
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petegz28 07:41 PM 08-29-2020




https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ZvvzmtBj0OhRa0
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AustinChief 08:11 PM 08-29-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:




https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ZvvzmtBj0OhRa0
This isn't really new. Doctors in Italy were saying this months ago. Many Covid fatalities are simply an acceleration for people with little time left. That is a fact but it doesn't mean that losing an extra month or year of life isn't tragic, it's just something to keep in perspective.

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suzzer99 09:21 PM 08-29-2020
Pete's tweet says "actually died of covid" whereas the CDC page says "covid was the only cause mentioned" - which is pretty disingenuous imo. Some of the other comorbidities listed are stuff like diabetes and obesity.



So DrElizabeth is asserting anyone with diabetes who dies of covid - actually died of diabetes.

This is so ludicrous we shouldn't even have to waste time discussing it. It's exhausting dealing with this kind of nonsense disinformation day in, day out. Which I suspect is suspect is the intent.
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Shiver Me Timbers 09:24 PM 08-29-2020
Originally Posted by AustinChief:
This isn't really new. Doctors in Italy were saying this months ago. Many Covid fatalities are simply an acceleration for people with little time left. That is a fact but it doesn't mean that losing an extra month or year of life isn't tragic, it's just something to keep in perspective.
And this is reason enough to to shutter an economy, ruin tens of thousands of businesses and millions of individuals financially? "That" also needs to be kept in perspective.
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petegz28 09:36 PM 08-29-2020
Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers:
And this is reason enough to to shutter an economy, ruin tens of thousands of businesses and millions of individuals financially? "That" also needs to be kept in perspective.
Reasons and cases and things
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AustinChief 09:37 PM 08-29-2020
Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers:
And this is reason enough to to shutter an economy, ruin tens of thousands of businesses and millions of individuals financially? "That" also needs to be kept in perspective.
And the suicides and people who avoided treatment for other conditions that did so because of the over emotional response we've seen. We've been terrible about looking at the big picture regarding all of this.

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petegz28 09:40 PM 08-29-2020
Originally Posted by AustinChief:
And the suicides and people who avoided treatment for other conditions that did so because of the over emotional response we've seen. We've been terrible about looking at the big picture regarding all of this.

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No we haven't. You can only die of Covid now. If someone suicided themselves it's a "Covid related death" so it counts as Covid.
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petegz28 09:44 PM 08-29-2020
What we have watched come to light over the last 1-2 weeks really has not fed the doom and gloom narrative and those who found their virtue in being afraid are now getting a bit pissy.

There are actually more "false positives" than we thought or wanted to believe
Testing results are being skewed by various agencies to push a fear based narrative
Tests are too sensitive causing false positives
We don't need people to test unless they show symptoms


I know I am still leaving a few things out
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