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Nzoner's Game Room>Hey Small Business Owners...What are you doing to ride the storm out?
Trivers 09:25 AM 03-26-2020
How are you handling HR issues?

Are you applying for SBA loans?
There are several types of loans. And new info is appearing daily.

Capital up to $10MM.
Up to 30 years to repay. Some actually are forgivable.
3.75 to 4%

https://disasterloan.sba.gov/ela/

https://www.inc.com/kevin-j-ryan/sma...incthismorning



My world: Everyone at the software companies are working remotely. The chocolate factory shut down yesterday due to not be considered an essential business. The chocolate elve had already left due to health concerns. I handle all the commercial rentals myself so no impact:

I don't intend to lay-off anybody...if this stretches into June or July...then we may look at cutting salaries by 25 to 50%. With the $1,200 everyone is getting already from the gov, and the 4 month unemployment (+$600/week additional), if we have to do layoffs, then the Team will not be totally without funds.

What are you doing to ride the storm out?
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SAUTO 06:34 PM 03-31-2020
Originally Posted by mililo4cpa:
This is a bridge loan advance while they process the EIDL....but yeah, there is apparently a new "application" process to go through...ugh!
Same application as last time. Said the 10k will be forgiven. And you can still get it if your loan is denied.
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Trivers 06:46 PM 03-31-2020
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Just got these from my banker. Says that they can submit as early as Friday, April 3rd.
Excellent!!! Major REP!!!
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BigCatDaddy 07:06 PM 03-31-2020
Seems like a good place to ask

I have a renter that owes me $2500. They also have a lien against them by our local hospital. Will the stimulus money make it to my renter or will that get intercepted by the lien holder like a tax refund would?
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Buehler445 11:52 PM 03-31-2020
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Just got these from my banker. Says that they can submit as early as Friday, April 3rd.
My buddy got that application from his banker. What I got from mine was a spreadsheet that went through the calculations of the loan. It had far less qualifications listed. I wonder if I can fill that out and have it work for the bank or if I’ll have to fill out the application here and provide that information too.

Either way, banker recommended I wait until It is hashed out a little bit more at the end of the week. Is that dumb or should I go ahead and apply through the website?
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Buehler445 11:58 PM 03-31-2020
This outfit says there has to be a 50% revenue decrease in the applicable quarter. That will certainly be applicable to some of you guys but it may boot me out. I gotta look at some numbers. I’m not sure I took in any revenue in Q2 2019.
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mililo4cpa 05:55 AM 04-01-2020
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
My buddy got that application from his banker. What I got from mine was a spreadsheet that went through the calculations of the loan. It had far less qualifications listed. I wonder if I can fill that out and have it work for the bank or if I’ll have to fill out the application here and provide that information too.

Either way, banker recommended I wait until It is hashed out a little bit more at the end of the week. Is that dumb or should I go ahead and apply through the website?
PPP application:
https://home.treasury.gov/system/fil...ontent=Special
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mililo4cpa 05:58 AM 04-01-2020
Originally Posted by Mr. Plow:
Just got these from my banker. Says that they can submit as early as Friday, April 3rd.
you beat me to it....good information!
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IA_Chiefs_fan 06:12 AM 04-01-2020
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
This outfit says there has to be a 50% revenue decrease in the applicable quarter. That will certainly be applicable to some of you guys but it may boot me out. I gotta look at some numbers. I’m not sure I took in any revenue in Q2 2019.
You're not referring to the PPP, are you? I don't see that requirement listed anywhere.
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mililo4cpa 06:55 AM 04-01-2020
Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan:
You're not referring to the PPP, are you? I don't see that requirement listed anywhere.
That is not a requirement for the PPP....the goal of PPP is to not have to lay people off, hence the loan forgiveness if you maintain your headcount and payroll spend....
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mililo4cpa 06:58 AM 04-01-2020
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
My buddy got that application from his banker. What I got from mine was a spreadsheet that went through the calculations of the loan. It had far less qualifications listed. I wonder if I can fill that out and have it work for the bank or if I’ll have to fill out the application here and provide that information too.

Either way, banker recommended I wait until It is hashed out a little bit more at the end of the week. Is that dumb or should I go ahead and apply through the website?
DO NOT WAIT! Get the application ready now, so that you can get it in asap....you cannot apply on-line, you have to go through a bank for the PPP
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mililo4cpa 06:59 AM 04-01-2020
and if anyone is so inclined, here's what the SBA is giving to the banks:

https://home.treasury.gov/system/fil...ontent=Special
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IA_Chiefs_fan 07:03 AM 04-01-2020
Originally Posted by mililo4cpa:
That is not a requirement for the PPP....the goal of PPP is to not have to lay people off, hence the loan forgiveness if you maintain your headcount and payroll spend....
Roger that. Thank you.
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Buehler445 07:24 AM 04-01-2020
Yeah. So I’m an idiot. Apparently I need to quit reading technical shit at night.

I forgot to post the blog that I was reading. It’s here.

https://blogs.claconnect.com/agribus...ll-tax-credit/

But it’s talking about the refundable payroll taxes. That’s seems of far less importance than the PPP loan at the moment.

Thanks for the help guys.
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Mr. Plow 07:34 AM 04-01-2020
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
Yeah. So I’m an idiot. Apparently I need to quit reading technical shit at night.

I forgot to post the blog that I was reading. It’s here.

https://blogs.claconnect.com/agribus...ll-tax-credit/

But it’s talking about the refundable payroll taxes. That’s seems of far less importance than the PPP loan at the moment.

Thanks for the help guys.
I'm going to get my filled out and sent to my banker today so that he can look it over before Friday. Once Friday rolls around or when this opens up for applications to be submitted, I'm going to make sure my banker gets mine in ASAP.
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Dallas Chief 07:37 AM 04-01-2020
Originally Posted by Buehler445:
My buddy got that application from his banker. What I got from mine was a spreadsheet that went through the calculations of the loan. It had far less qualifications listed. I wonder if I can fill that out and have it work for the bank or if I’ll have to fill out the application here and provide that information too.

Either way, banker recommended I wait until It is hashed out a little bit more at the end of the week. Is that dumb or should I go ahead and apply through the website?
Thanks for sharing all this info. The application doesn't have any lines to add the additional operating costs such as health care premiums and rent/leases. Not sure where we are suppose to enter those. Would it be possible for you to share a blank version of the spreadsheet your banker gave you? It seems I know more about what is going on than our business banker (Chase), although that doesn't really surprise me. Thanks bud!
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