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Nzoner's Game Room>Josh Allen “debating” whether to get COVID-19 vaccine
kcbubb 10:12 PM 04-07-2021
The NFL will not mandate COVID-19 vaccines. Thus, it stands to reason, even with incentives offered to teams and players who are vaccinated, some players aren’t going to get a shot.

Bills quarterback Josh Allen could be one of those. In an appearance on The Ringer’s “10 Questions With Kyle Brandt” podcast, Allen said he has not had a vaccine and might not get one.

“I’m still debating that,” Allen said, via Matt Parrino of nyup.com. “I’m a big statistics and logical guy. So, if statistics show it’s the right thing for me to do, I’d do it. Again, I’d lean the other way, too, if that’s what it said. I haven’t been paying attention to it as much as maybe I should have. I’ve just been doing my thing and masking up when I’m going out and just staying close and hanging around family.”

It is unclear what statistics Allen needs to see to convince him to get a shot. The Pfizer vaccine was shown a 95 percent efficacy rate in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, just 1 percentage point more than Moderna’s. The single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine was shown to have a 72 percent efficacy rate in the United States in preventing symptomatic illness and an 85 percent efficacy rate in preventing the most severe disease 28 days after vaccination.

Allen, 24, made clear he’s against any kind of mandate.

“I think everybody should have that choice to do it or not to do it,” Allen said. “You get in this tricky situation now where if you do mandate that that’s kind of going against what our constitution says and the freedom to kind of express yourself one way or the other. I think we’re in a time where that’s getting a lot harder to do. Everybody should have that choice.”

However, the league expects to amend certain protocols for those who are vaccinated and for teams as a whole if certain vaccination levels are met, which will encourage (pressure?) players to get a COVID-19 shot.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...id-19-vaccine/
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htismaqe 03:20 PM 04-10-2021
Originally Posted by Donger:
What's the example of hypocrisy from the people who care about the 575,000 deaths?
Case in point.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03:41 PM 04-10-2021
No one gonna mention that during covid last year only 1800 flu cases and the year before covid hit over 36 million. Really makes you wonder
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Donger 04:31 PM 04-10-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
Case in point.
I do care about other deaths, so where's the case in point?
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Donger 04:32 PM 04-10-2021
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
No one gonna mention that during covid last year only 1800 flu cases and the year before covid hit over 36 million. Really makes you wonder
Want to guess why?
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srvy 04:37 PM 04-10-2021
Dammit, you all have pulled Dunger into the conversation. Let the shit show begin!
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Rainbarrel 08:54 PM 04-10-2021
Pete vs staylor
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TwistedChief 03:47 AM 04-11-2021
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
If you have taken the vaccine then you can't get it from someone who hasn't- so why public shame them? :-)
So, I totally understand how you'd feel that way and it's entirely logical, but it's also not really accurate.

First, we know the vaccine is not 100% effective solely based on the trial results. Some people just don't take to the vaccine and develop antibodies to ward off covid. So if you get it and you happen to be around one of these people, it's entirely possible you can transmit it to that person.

Second, and more importantly, there's the risk of variants. Let's take a situation where 5pct of the population takes the vaccine and 95pct don't. You then have 95pct of the population as a petri dish for the virus to continue to mutate, find ways around previously developed antibodies, etc until it's possible there's a new variant that's able to overcome the vaccine. That's highly likely. Take the flip side of that where 95pct get vaccinated and 5pct don't and that petri dish becomes a lot smaller and risk of these mutations is similarly reduced.

That's kinda why people who take the vaccine still have a stake in whether you take the vaccine or not.
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