The NFL will not mandate COVID-19 vaccines. Thus, it stands to reason, even with incentives offered to teams and players who are vaccinated, some players aren’t going to get a shot.
Bills quarterback Josh Allen could be one of those. In an appearance on The Ringer’s “10 Questions With Kyle Brandt” podcast, Allen said he has not had a vaccine and might not get one.
“I’m still debating that,” Allen said, via Matt Parrino of nyup.com. “I’m a big statistics and logical guy. So, if statistics show it’s the right thing for me to do, I’d do it. Again, I’d lean the other way, too, if that’s what it said. I haven’t been paying attention to it as much as maybe I should have. I’ve just been doing my thing and masking up when I’m going out and just staying close and hanging around family.”
It is unclear what statistics Allen needs to see to convince him to get a shot. The Pfizer vaccine was shown a 95 percent efficacy rate in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, just 1 percentage point more than Moderna’s. The single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine was shown to have a 72 percent efficacy rate in the United States in preventing symptomatic illness and an 85 percent efficacy rate in preventing the most severe disease 28 days after vaccination.
Allen, 24, made clear he’s against any kind of mandate.
“I think everybody should have that choice to do it or not to do it,” Allen said. “You get in this tricky situation now where if you do mandate that that’s kind of going against what our constitution says and the freedom to kind of express yourself one way or the other. I think we’re in a time where that’s getting a lot harder to do. Everybody should have that choice.”
However, the league expects to amend certain protocols for those who are vaccinated and for teams as a whole if certain vaccination levels are met, which will encourage (pressure?) players to get a COVID-19 shot.
Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056:
He’s a young healthy active guy with no pre-existing conditions that would endanger him. Perhaps he’s confident enough in his immune system to weigh whether it’s even necessary for him at this point.
You could be absolutely correct. It could also be that he's simply a coward. Difficult to determine with what we know. :-) [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
You could be absolutely correct. It could also be that he's simply a coward. Difficult to determine with what we know. :-)
No. He's an asshole. Just say yes. Who would know or even care?
Josh Allen isn't thinking about it. Thinking about it at this point is low key not getting it because of silly reasoning. He's being an asshole.
Originally Posted by eDave:
Why not just do it and not be an asshole? That's easy and doesn't take much effort at all. Especially for a young healthy active guy with no pre-existing conditions that would endanger him.
Why not just tie him down and force the vaccine in him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
You could be absolutely correct. It could also be that he's simply a coward. Difficult to determine with what we know. :-)
I don’t think following the status quo and doing what the screens are telling us to do is necessarily the brave thing to do though. I’d say those standing up for their stance and not folding are the brave ones since that seems pretty clear to be what upsets people.
Also don’t see why tf Josh Allen is being asked about this. The real problem here is the hyper-involvement of politics and ethic policing that sports media has immersed itself in to. Attempting to use entertainment figures as beacons of social example is only going to upset/disappoint people consistently. [Reply]
Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole1056:
I don’t think following the status quo and doing what the screens are telling us to do is necessarily the brave thing to do though. I’d say those standing up for their stance and not folding are the brave ones since that seems pretty clear to be what upsets people.
Also don’t see why tf Josh Allen is being asked about this. The real problem here is the hyper-involvement of politics and ethic policing that sports media has immersed itself in to. Attempting to use entertainment figures as beacons of social example is only going to upset/disappoint people consistently.
He has no "stance" if he's thinking about it. Shit or get off the pot. Do or do not. There is no try.
He don't have the skillset to even pop off like this.
Originally Posted by KCrockaholic:
His body, and his choice.
Absolutely. If he gets Covid next fall and misses one or more games, its all about him and his body. Who cares about his teammates. Certainly not him. [Reply]
Originally Posted by eDave:
Why not just do it and not be an asshole? That's easy and doesn't take much effort at all. Especially for a young healthy active guy with no pre-existing conditions that would endanger him.
Only an asshole would try to force another person to inject themselves with a substance that hasnt been properly tested...but as long as it satiates your fear "feels"...right?
You'd make a proper brownnshirt...they like them nice and compliant. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Only an asshole would try to force another person to inject themselves with a substance that hasnt been properly tested...but as long as it satiates your fear "feels"...right?
You'd make a proper brownnshirt...they like them nice and compliant.
Not my point. I think you know that. My POINT is, shut the fuck up Josh. Have you ever heard of set and setting, or have never tripped on acid? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bump:
That's what I was asking? I remember hearing many names testing positive, just wondering how many died.
I know at least 2 dozen people who have had it...and the worst was losing his taste. These were people who fit in the "otherwise healthy" category and under 60... most said they had fatigue for a few days.
How the media convinced people this was like the black plague was a masterclass in propaganda...it literally has a 99.8% survival rate...and that is including the skewed mortality statistics...
People are still acting like it's this super deadly virus when it's not...not even close.
The media could say sunshine is terrible for them and the sky is purple....and they would believe it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by eDave:
Just lost me as a Bills fan. Mahomes probably got his without debate.
At the end of his interview, he said he was probably going to take the vaccine because he was really worried about a Chiefs fan 3 time zones away from him possibly not rooting for him. Josh was also quoted as saying “although it may not be a popular decision not to take the vaccine, at least I’m not a racist asshole like Carlton Davis”. [Reply]
Originally Posted by eDave:
Why not just do it and not be an asshole? That's easy and doesn't take much effort at all. Especially for a young healthy active guy with no pre-existing conditions that would endanger him.
Hmm. You're judging a 25 year old professional athlete, who is in the lowest category for being at risk of either contracting COVID or having long term adverse effects for an illness with a 99.8% survival rate. He is simply pausing to think before deciding whether or not to allow a foreign substance enter his bloodstream
Yet you gleefully admit to smoking what-- 15 cigarettes per day? Second-hand smoke causes an increase in cancer rates by 30% of non-smokers. Cigarette butts are the single greatest source of ocean trash on the planet...but you're not harming anyone. Your body, your choice, amirite?
Josh Allen is an 'asshole'? I think I know another one. [Reply]
