ChiefsPlanet Mobile
Page 2 of 2
< 12
Washington DC and The Holy Land>Trump Citizenship Policy Change
NinerDoug 02:50 PM 08-28-2019
https://taskandpurpose.com/military-...7zh0vqNy7MIg6E

Children of US troops born overseas will no longer get automatic American citizenship, Trump administration says

Children born to U.S. service members and government employees overseas will no longer be automatically considered citizens of the United States, according to policy alert issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on Wednesday.

Previously, children born to U.S. citizen parents were considered to be "residing in the United States," and therefore would be automatically given citizenship under Immigration and Nationality Act 320. Now, children born to U.S. service members and government employees, such as those born in U.S. military hospitals or diplomatic facilities, will not be considered as residing in the U.S., changing the way that they potentially receive citizenship.

The change in policy was first reported by San Francisco Chronicle reporter Tal Kopan.

According to USCIS, previous legislation also explicitly said that spouses of service members who were living outside the U.S. because of their spouses were considered residing in the U.S., but "that no similar provision was included for children of U.S. armed forces members in the acquisition of citizenship context is significant."

That is one of the reasons why USCIS has now decided that those children are not considered to be residing in the U.S., and therefore will not be automatically given citizenship. Instead, they will fall under INA 322, which considers them to be residing outside the U.S. and requires them to apply for naturalization.

They will be allowed to complete all naturalization proceedings while living abroad, the new policy says.

"The policy change explains that we will not consider children who live abroad with their parents to be residing in the United States even if their parents are U.S. government employees or U.S. service members stationed outside of the United States, and as a result, these children will no longer be considered to have acquired citizenship automatically," USCIS spokesperson Meredith Parker told Task & Purpose.

"For them to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship, their U.S. citizen parent must apply for citizenship on their behalf."
The process under INA 322 must be completed before the child's 18th birthday.

While children of service members will be allowed to complete the citizenship process outside of the U.S., Parker added, children of government employees "must enter the U.S. lawfully with an immigrant or nonimmigrant visa and be in lawful status when they take the Oath of Allegiance."
[Reply]
alpha_omega 03:51 PM 08-28-2019
Maybe i am reading it wrong, but other than a little paperwork, sounds like not much is changing.
[Reply]
vailpass 03:55 PM 08-28-2019
This isn’t accurate.Read the discussions in the link.


“Correction: Experts who have looked at new USCIS policy say it applies if a service member adopts a child overseas, but children born to service members on deployment would still automatically get citizenship. I deleted tweets with the incorrect info.”

And

“Your headline is left wing garbage. You are deliberately misleading your readers.

Read the actual policy folks.”

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...itizenship.pdf
[Reply]
Discuss Thrower 03:56 PM 08-28-2019
All this would do is deny citizenship to kids born outside of the country and to a non-naturalized US national. The INA pretty clearly spells out the criteria for rules governing U.S. one or more citizens (natural or otherwise) having kids abroad.

I guess if you're a Filipino serving as a legal alien soldier in the Army and you have a kid with one of the frauleins hanging around Rammstein, the kid is either German or Filipino?
[Reply]
NinerDoug 03:57 PM 08-28-2019
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Yea but it doesn't really make any difference if all you have to do is fill out some paperwork ding dong.
If you're a naturalized citizen, you can't be President. There's a difference. Also has to be done before the child is 18. There's another difference.
[Reply]
NinerDoug 03:59 PM 08-28-2019
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Not a fan of this whatsoever, hopefully Marcellus is right and it gets fixed ASAP

Did you find this on a news aggregator, Doug, or do you regularly read T&P? Great site, been reading it for 2-3 years now
I've actually never heard of the site before. Just came up on my news aggregator, and thanks for the new term. :-)
[Reply]
New World Order 04:10 PM 08-28-2019
Originally Posted by vailpass:
This isn’t accurate.Read the discussions in the link.


“Correction: Experts who have looked at new USCIS policy say it applies if a service member adopts a child overseas, but children born to service members on deployment would still automatically get citizenship. I deleted tweets with the incorrect info.”

And

“Your headline is left wing garbage. You are deliberately misleading your readers.

Read the actual policy folks.”

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...itizenship.pdf
Fake news is alive and well
[Reply]
patteeu 04:16 PM 08-28-2019
Originally Posted by vailpass:
This isn’t accurate.Read the discussions in the link.


“Correction: Experts who have looked at new USCIS policy say it applies if a service member adopts a child overseas, but children born to service members on deployment would still automatically get citizenship. I deleted tweets with the incorrect info.”

And

“Your headline is left wing garbage. You are deliberately misleading your readers.

Read the actual policy folks.”

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/...itizenship.pdf
Wow, another journalistic false alarm in the age of Trump. How surprising.
[Reply]
Prison Bitch 04:43 PM 08-28-2019
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
There are 450,000 U.S. Service Members stationed overseas. That doesn't include non-military government employees.

Hint: Google is your friend.
Hint: you didn’t answer my question, dippy


1. How many children are born?
2. How many will be denied after being born?
[Reply]
Easy 6 04:47 PM 08-28-2019
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
I've actually never heard of the site before. Just came up on my news aggregator, and thanks for the new term. :-)
It’s always a pleasure informing you here in DC :-)
[Reply]
Just Passin' By 04:51 PM 08-28-2019
Helpful hint for the D.C. forum leftists:


If a site, any site, posts an article that is either anti-Trump or pro-leftist in appearance or angle, consider it to be fake news until a considerable amount of further research proves the story correct.

For ****'s sake, how many times do you clowns need to be suckered in by NBC, WaPo, NYT, CNN, LAT, Reuters, Yahoo!, Bloomberg and the like before you allow such an obvious bit of wisdom to penetrate into the darkness that is your minds?
[Reply]
JohnnyHammersticks 06:26 PM 08-28-2019
Yet another libtard faceplant thread. :-)


[Reply]
Al Czervik 06:34 PM 08-28-2019
Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks:
Yet another libtard faceplant thread. :-)

LOL....These lemmings.....So easily triggered
[Reply]
BigRichard 06:35 PM 08-28-2019

[Reply]
JohnnyHammersticks 06:50 PM 08-28-2019

[Reply]
srvy 07:11 PM 08-28-2019
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
Helpful hint for the D.C. forum leftists:


If a site, any site, posts an article that is either anti-Trump or pro-leftist in appearance or angle, consider it to be fake news until a considerable amount of further research proves the story correct.

For ****'s sake, how many times do you clowns need to be suckered in by NBC, WaPo, NYT, CNN, LAT, Reuters, Yahoo!, Bloomberg and the like before you allow such an obvious bit of wisdom to penetrate into the darkness that is your minds?
They just can't resist. It pops up they instantly get excited over their gotcha bombshell and rush to post it grinning ear to ear. Never fails they fall flat and try to argue it or backstep out of the thread they started and commence searching for the next shoe drop.

Ninerdung does this over and over maybe the number one offender he is excitable.

[Reply]
Page 2 of 2
< 12
Up