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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Bloomberg: Trump asked Tillerson to interfere in case of Turk gold trader
banyon 07:50 PM 10-09-2019
Trump Urged Top Aide to Help Giuliani Client Facing DOJ Charges
By Nick Wadhams , Saleha Mohsin , Stephanie Baker , and Jennifer Jacobs
October 9, 2019, 6:27 PM EDT
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson refused to interfere in case
2017 episode bears hallmarks of Trump approach to Ukraine call

Trump Urged Aide to Help Giuliani Client Facing Charges
President Donald Trump pressed then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to help persuade the Justice Department to drop a criminal case against an Iranian-Turkish gold trader who was a client of Rudy Giuliani, according to three people familiar with the 2017 meeting in the Oval Office.

Tillerson refused, arguing it would constitute interference in an ongoing investigation of the trader, Reza Zarrab, according to the people. They said other participants in the Oval Office were shocked by the request.

Tillerson immediately repeated his objections to then-Chief of Staff John Kelly in a hallway conversation just outside the Oval Office, emphasizing that the request would be illegal. Neither episode has been previously reported, and all of the people spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the conversations.

The White House declined to comment. Kelly and Tillerson declined to comment via representatives. Another person familiar with the matter said the Justice Department never considered dropping the criminal case.

Zarrab was being prosecuted in federal court in New York at the time on charges of evading U.S. sanctions against Iran’s nuclear program. He had hired former Attorney General Michael Mukasey and Giuliani, who has said he reached out repeatedly to U.S. officials to seek a diplomatic solution for his client outside the courts.

The president’s request to Tillerson -- which included asking him to speak with Giuliani -- bears the hallmarks of Trump’s governing style, defined by his willingness to sweep aside the customary procedures and constraints of government to pursue matters outside normal channels. Tillerson’s objection came to light as Trump’s dealings with foreign leaders face intense scrutiny following the July 25 call with Ukraine’s president that has sparked an impeachment inquiry in the HousE.



Reza Zarrab in 2013.Photographer: Ozan Kose/AFP via Getty Images
The episode is also likely to fuel long-standing concerns from some of Trump’s critics about his policies toward Turkey and his relationship with its authoritarian president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Zarrab’s release was a high priority for Erdogan until the gold trader agreed to cooperate with prosecutors in New York.

It isn’t clear whether Trump considered his request for Tillerson to intervene to be improper or was just testing the bounds of what he could do as president on an issue that could provide diplomatic benefits while also helping Giuliani, a longtime supporter. The Oval Office meeting occurred in the second half of 2017 and Giuliani wasn’t the president’s personal lawyer at the time, as he is now.

‘Prisoner Swap’


In a phone interview this month, Giuliani initially denied that he ever raised Zarrab’s case with Trump but later said he might have done so. He said he’d been speaking with U.S. officials as part of his effort to arrange a swap of Zarrab for Andrew Brunson, an American pastor jailed in Turkey who was later released in 2018.


“Suppose I did talk to Trump about it -- so what? I was a private lawyer at the time,” Giuliani said. “Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe at some point I dropped his name in a conversation. Or maybe one of his people talked to him about it because I was trying to do a prisoner swap.”

Giuliani said he discussed the Zarrab case with State Department officials and disclosed that two years ago, although he declined to say if he ever spoke directly to Tillerson about the case, saying “you have no right to know that.”

State Department Alarm


Concerns about Trump’s close alliance with Erdogan were exacerbated this week after Trump abruptly announced on Sunday that he would clear U.S. troops from the path of a planned Turkish invasion in northeast Syria. The weekend announcement drew quick criticism from top Republican lawmakers, who said it endangered Kurdish forces the U.S. relied on to defeat Islamic State. Those Kurdish-led forces are now under attack.

Trump followed his weekend decision with an announcement Tuesday that he has invited Erdogan to the White House in November.

As he was with Ukraine, Giuliani was so steeped in events in Turkey that State Department officials grew increasingly alarmed. Earlier in 2017, he had traveled to the country and met with Erdogan as part of his effort to seek a resolution in Zarrab’s case.


He and Mukasey said in a letter to the judge in Zarrab’s case that they notified then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions of their plans before holding a meeting with Erdogan.

Erdogan repeatedly spoke with Trump and, before 2017, Obama administration officials about Zarrab’s case when it was before the Southern District of New York as part of a broader investigation into a scheme to evade sanctions on Iran.

At one point, the State Department under Tillerson got involved in discussions over possibly swapping Zarrab for Brunson, the jailed pastor, but the matter was eventually dropped because Turkey kept escalating its demands, according to another person familiar with the timeline of events.


Tillerson has said publicly that the president frequently asked him to do things that were illegal.

“So often, the president would say ‘Here’s what I want to do and here’s how I want to do it,’ and I would have to say to him, ‘Mr. President I understand what you want to do but you can’t do it that way,”’ Tillerson said in an on-stage interview with Bob Schieffer in Texas last year. “It violates the law, it violates treaty you know and he just, he got really frustrated when we’d have those conversations.”

Opulent Lifestyle

Zarrab, a one-time gold trader in his mid-30s, had lived an opulent lifestyle in Turkey, with a private plane, yacht and a Turkish pop-star wife. After his arrest in early 2016, prosecutors alleged he had “close ties” with Erdogan. They accused Zarrab of using his network of companies to move money through the U.S. financial system to help Iran evade sanctions as the U.S. was stepping up economic pressure on the country.


Zarrab later pleaded guilty and testified against Mehmet Hakan Atilla, who headed international banking at state-owned Turkiye Halk Bankasii AS, known as Halkbank. Zarrab said Erdogan knew of and supported the laundering effort on behalf of Iran. Erdogan and other senior Turkish officials repeatedly rejected the accusations, saying they were fabrications.

Atilla was eventually convicted of helping Iran evade economic sanctions on billions of dollars of oil revenue and served 28 months in U.S. prison before returning to Turkey in July to a hero’s welcome. Turkey has so far managed to avoid U.S. penalties over the sanctions-evasion scheme.

Despite Erdogan’s demands and Giuliani’s efforts, Zarrab was never sent back to Turkey. Once he agreed to testify, he was moved to a county jail for safekeeping, and he stayed there until after Atilla’s trial was over. By then, Zarrab’s home and assets in Turkey had been seized by Erdogan.

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banyon 09:02 AM 10-10-2019
Originally Posted by Donger:
It was?
Yes that’s in the text messages they refer to it as “the deliverable”. Trump tasked Volker and Sondland with writing the statement for Zelensky.
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Donger 09:05 AM 10-10-2019
Originally Posted by banyon:
Yes that’s in the text messages they refer to it as “the deliverable”. Trump tasked Volker and Sondland with writing the statement for Zelensky.
Okay.
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scho63 03:07 PM 10-10-2019
It's really incredible funny that for the last 100 years all the politicians on both sides of the aisle intervene and do favors for people, that what powerful people do.

Now that Trump is doing similar things, everyone is acting like all the prior politicians were fucking angels and perfect. What a crock of shit.
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Discuss Thrower 03:13 PM 10-10-2019
Originally Posted by Donger:
I care about all corruption. As you point out, Trump's concern seems to be a tad one sided.
You care about furthering given your unflinching support for naked war profiteering in Iraq.
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Donger 03:18 PM 10-10-2019
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
You care about furthering given your unflinching support for naked war profiteering in Iraq.
Are you accusing me of making a profit on Iraq?
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Iowanian 03:20 PM 10-10-2019
I don't care.


Legislators should focus on shit that actually helps Americans. Health care reform, immigration, USMCA.......

What have Dems done for America in the past 2 years besides obstruct?
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Cosmos 03:27 PM 10-10-2019
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
I don't care.


Legislators should focus on shit that actually helps Americans. Health care reform, immigration, USMCA.......

What have Dems done for America in the past 2 years besides obstruct?
Now that Trump is on the run and getting exposed, you want talk about legislation.... I r o n y

Reach out Moscow Mitch, because the House has moved 100+ bills (200 + I believe) to the senate for discussion, but he’s too caught up in his own power, and doesn’t want to put his own Repubs on record for the issues YOU accuse Dems of obstructing.

Know your facts.
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Bowser 03:29 PM 10-10-2019
Originally Posted by Cosmos:
Now that Trump is on the run and getting exposed, you want talk about legislation.... I r o n y

Reach out Moscow Mitch, because the House has moved 100+ bills (200 + I believe) to the senate for discussion, but he’s too caught up in his own power, and doesn’t want to put his own Repubs on record for the issues YOU accuse Dems of obstructing.

Know your facts.
Look at this post, haha
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Marcellus 03:30 PM 10-10-2019
Should I be more outraged over that thing that didn't happen or this thing that did happen?

This isn't a whataboutism, its simply a comparison. I know which one is bigger deal for certain, and I am sure all you libtards were completely and totally outraged over this.

Originally Posted by :
The Obama administration stymied a sprawling investigation into the terror group Hezbollah — and its highly lucrative drug- trafficking networks — to protect the Iran nuclear deal, according to a bombshell report.

A team at the Drug Enforcement Administration had been working for almost a decade to bring down the Iran-backed militant organization’s sophisticated $1 billion-a-year drug ring, which laundered money and smuggled cocaine into the United States, Politico reported.

But the departments of Justice and Treasury repeatedly undermined agents’ efforts to arrest and prosecute key members of the criminal network — because the Obama White House feared upsetting Tehran ahead of the nuclear agreement, according to Politico.

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InChiefsHell 03:31 PM 10-10-2019
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
I don't care.


Legislators should focus on shit that actually helps Americans. Health care reform, immigration, USMCA.......

What have Dems done for America in the past 2 years besides obstruct?
I tried this line of questioning in another thread...it was wasted text there as it is here.
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Bowser 03:31 PM 10-10-2019
*turns on MSM*

You should definitely be more outraged over the Trump stuff. No doubt.
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Iowanian 03:40 PM 10-10-2019
Originally Posted by Cosmos:
Now that Trump is on the run and getting exposed, you want talk about legislation.... I r o n y

Reach out Moscow Mitch, because the House has moved 100+ bills (200 + I believe) to the senate for discussion, but he’s too caught up in his own power, and doesn’t want to put his own Repubs on record for the issues YOU accuse Dems of obstructing.

Know your facts.
The only time Trump is exposed its because he's taking his cock out to wipe in the libs curtains.

Irony is every time the libs call the next shoes dropping and it proves to be bullshit and it turns out a lib actually did whatever they're acusing Trump of doing.

Accuse(falsely) Trump/Kavanaugh/Rep of sexual misconduct....oops Anthony Weiner et all
Accuse Trump of Russia collusion right after Obama and the left laughed and mocked Trump for bringing it up before 2016 election......
Biden dirty as hell in U-crane.....better blame Trump for something.

It's like watching a liberal temper tantrum from a kid that needs a nap really bad for 4 years. I know you want a cookie, but go the f to sleep.

My facts are that every time the libs try this shit, Trump shoves it up their ass. Now run along and read Hillary's illegal emails from Anthony Weiner's dick pic machine


Soon, the libs will have to answer for what they've been doing for 4 years......NOTHING FOR Americans. Nothing.
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NinerDoug 04:07 PM 10-10-2019
Originally Posted by banyon:
I think you are right the bar is so low now that some people won’t ever care if Trump committed crimes or not.
This.
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banyon 08:19 PM 10-10-2019
Originally Posted by banyon:
I also would point out again that the demand was that zelensky announce the Biden investigation publicly. If it were legitimately a corruption probe, DOJ would have been the one handling the communications and taking the lead. There’s not even a case being investigated by DOJ AFAICT
It was?
___________

Originally Posted by Donger:
It was?

Also on this today, something I missed from the Volker testimony:

Originally Posted by :
During testimony behind closed doors on Thursday, the special envoy, Kurt D. Volker, said Mr. Giuliani rejected a generic draft statement that Ukraine’s government had agreed to issue committing to fighting corruption generally. Instead, Mr. Giuliani said the Ukrainians had to promise to pursue two specific investigations that could damage the president’s political domestic adversaries

This goes to the need to publicize the info.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...raine.amp.html
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Marcellus 08:26 PM 10-10-2019
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
This.
IF, IF, IF.

:-) we have been reduced to IF. I wonder why.
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