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Schnitzel 08:19 AM 10-11-2017
http://www.kansascity.com/news/polit...178220811.html

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Sassy Squatch 04:09 PM 10-11-2017
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
You forgot a big one. Talent pool. They'll want a place they can pick off a ton of young talent cheap. I'd bet it will be Midwest for the logistical advantages and cost of living. If I had to guess, Austin seems like a difficult one to beat. It has transportation, affordable cost of living, booming tech climate, and a massive university to bring in cheap young talent.
Austin would be a nightmare if they want to surround their HQ with distribution sites. Literally has 2 of the 10 worst stretches of highway in the U.S.
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Spott 04:15 PM 10-11-2017
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Well they're going to go to a place that offers the best tax abatements for them that is a defensible place for techs and entry/mid level management types to move to that's cheaper than Seattle.

Going to a state with no individual income tax is a bonus to help sell existing employees and new hires on to but what matters is a cheaper overall cost of living most likely.
If that were the case, the only areas of Florida with cheaper costs of living would be in the northern part of the state, and I don't see them going to a place like Jacksonville or Pensacola.
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eDave 04:15 PM 10-11-2017
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
You forgot a big one. Talent pool. They'll want a place they can pick off a ton of young talent cheap. I'd bet it will be Midwest for the logistical advantages and cost of living. If I had to guess, Austin seems like a difficult one to beat. It has transportation, affordable cost of living, booming tech climate, and a massive university to bring in cheap young talent.
AKA: Phoenix
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MTG#10 04:28 PM 10-11-2017
Last year I would have been against it. But since those aholes decided to start charging Missourians sales tax even though they technically don't have to, might as well.
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cooper barrett 04:31 PM 10-11-2017
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
You forgot a big one. Talent pool. They'll want a place they can pick off a ton of young talent cheap. I'd bet it will be Midwest for the logistical advantages and cost of living. If I had to guess, Austin seems like a difficult one to beat. It has transportation, affordable cost of living, booming tech climate, and a massive university to bring in cheap young talent.
Last time I checked the cost of living in Austin was not cheap, University escorts have gone up a hundred this year alone :-):-):-) and rents are super high running $250 month more than TX and $150 more than USA. They rank 117 vs 100 in COL costs.

KC is much cheaper than Austin in rents and equal in everything else.

Compared to the rest of the country, Kansas City Metro Area's cost of living is 6.10% Lower than the U.S. average.

Compared to the rest of the country, Austin's cost of living is 17.40% Higher than the U.S. average.

I will say Austin is hip for younger employees living in urban settings compared to KC

Cummin's has a hard time recruiting because there is little nightlife (social opportunities) near their headquarters in Columbus, IN but Austin does have nightlife and college amenities in their favor.

So I call bullshit on your Austin COL claims
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cooper barrett 04:34 PM 10-11-2017
Originally Posted by BeMyValentine:
If Cerner can't find enough Tech talent how would Amazon?
Cummins is challenged too
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RunKC 04:34 PM 10-11-2017
Originally Posted by eDave:
AKA: Phoenix
I'm excited to be visiting Phoenix this weekend. Where am I eating at?
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cooper barrett 04:36 PM 10-11-2017
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I'm excited to be visiting Phoenix this weekend. Where am I eating at?
Scottsdale or between the A and the T:-):-):-)
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eDave 04:38 PM 10-11-2017
Originally Posted by RunKC:
I'm excited to be visiting Phoenix this weekend. Where am I eating at?
I wouldn't know where to start. Where will you be?
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Shag 04:41 PM 10-11-2017
I don't think KC has much of a shot. If they go midwest, I imagine it'd be Minneapolis, Chicago, Austin, Dallas, Denver. Cities with younger populations, large or appealing metro areas, more affordable than the coasts.

I'm not convinced it'll be midwest, though.
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eDave 04:44 PM 10-11-2017
Originally Posted by Shag:
I don't think KC has much of a shot. If they go midwest, I imagine it'd be Minneapolis, Chicago, Austin, Dallas, Denver. Cities with younger populations, large or appealing metro areas, more affordable than the coasts.

I'm not convinced it'll be midwest, though.
They will want attractive incentives, a deep resource pool, and cheap associated costs.

It would be a great thing for KC but they don't stand a chance really.
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RunKC 04:45 PM 10-11-2017
Originally Posted by eDave:
I wouldn't know where to start. Where will you be?
According to my fiancé, it's in Payson. Apparently that's not exactly a suburb of Phoenix, but more in the mountains?

We'll be in Phoenix one day looking around though.
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chiefzilla1501 04:45 PM 10-11-2017
Originally Posted by cooper barrett:
Last time I checked the cost of living in Austin was not cheap, University escorts have gone up a hundred this year alone :-):-):-) and rents are super high running $250 month more than TX and $150 more than USA. They rank 117 vs 100 in COL costs.

KC is much cheaper than Austin in rents and equal in everything else.

Compared to the rest of the country, Kansas City Metro Area's cost of living is 6.10% Lower than the U.S. average.

Compared to the rest of the country, Austin's cost of living is 17.40% Higher than the U.S. average.

I will say Austin is hip for younger employees living in urban settings compared to KC

Cummin's has a hard time recruiting because there is little nightlife (social opportunities) near their headquarters in Columbus, IN but Austin does have nightlife and college amenities in their favor.

So I call bullshit on your Austin COL claims
I didn't say it was cheap, but it's affordable given its size. If Amazon knocks out places without public transportation or enough direct flights, that puts Austin very high on the short list when it comes to affordability. And Public transportation also gives a lot more flexibility to live wherever you want.
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chiefzilla1501 04:46 PM 10-11-2017
Originally Posted by eDave:
AKA: Phoenix
Seems like a strong contender as well.
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KCUnited 04:46 PM 10-11-2017
My guess is Atlanta. Georgia Tech, existing logistics staffing, major airline hub, relatively low cost of living. Their sprawl may hurt them though. I'd consider Chicago if it weren't for the crime and government instability. People are fleeing Cook County.
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