I was concerned about the Bucs based on record and stat sheets.
After watching the shitshow Monday night, I have no idea how they got to 7-3, I don't understand how they blew the Raiders out, and Brady looks like a scared old man.
They are SLOW. Like across the board. The only Bucs player on offense that has wheels is AB. The rest look like they're running in sand.
Defensive line is stout. back 7 is also SLOW.
Unless we have one of those games where we just aren't in the game mentally, we should embarass them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I was concerned about the Bucs based on record and stat sheets.
After watching the shitshow Monday night, I have no idea how they got to 7-3, I don't understand how they blew the Raiders out, and Brady looks like a scared old man.
They are SLOW. Like across the board. The only Bucs player on offense that has wheels is AB. The rest look like they're running in sand.
Defensive line is stout. back 7 is also SLOW.
Unless we have one of those games where we just aren't in the game mentally, we should embarass them.
The fact that the Giants were able to move the ball on them, and nearly beat them gives me a lot of confidence.. I also don't think Arians is all that great as a coach, or that Leftwich is all that good as a OC. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I was concerned about the Bucs based on record and stat sheets.
After watching the shitshow Monday night, I have no idea how they got to 7-3, I don't understand how they blew the Raiders out, and Brady looks like a scared old man.
They are SLOW. Like across the board. The only Bucs player on offense that has wheels is AB. The rest look like they're running in sand.
Defensive line is stout. back 7 is also SLOW.
Unless we have one of those games where we just aren't in the game mentally, we should embarass them.
They didn't really blow the Raiders out. It was 24-17 at the end of 3 and the Raiders closed to 24-20 right after the 4th started.
The Bucs scored on a long drive to go up 11 and Carr immediately threw a pick. Bucs scored in two plays. The Raiders then went for it on 4th down and the Bucs scored again. [Reply]
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
They didn't really blow the Raiders out. It was 24-17 at the end of 3 and the Raiders closed to 24-20 right after the 4th started.
The Bucs scored on a long drive to go up 11 and Carr immediately threw a pick. Bucs scored in two plays. The Raiders then went for it on 4th down and the Bucs scored again.
yeah that's what you said.
I hadn't watched them actually play all season until Monday.
After the game I have to say I was completely unimpressed with either team. But as for the Bucs-man if they can't handle Woods and Kupp, they're in a world of trouble this week.
And man, their offense looks terrible. Is that just where the NFC is this season? Because I think Cleveland would smoke them. I tend to watch the AFC games mostly as it's what affects KC. As for the rest, I do check stats and rankings (and highlights), but man...
The Chiefs have a little bit of a tendency to play down to opponents at times; and they could well do that Sunday, but if they were to actually show up ready to play we should blow them out of the ****ing water. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
yeah that's what you said.
I hadn't watched them actually play all season until Monday.
After the game I have to say I was completely unimpressed with either team. But as for the Bucs-man if they can't handle Woods and Kupp, they're in a world of trouble this week.
And man, their offense looks terrible. Is that just where the NFC is this season? Because I think Cleveland would smoke them. I tend to watch the AFC games mostly as it's what affects KC. As for the rest, I do check stats and rankings (and highlights), but man...
The Chiefs have a little bit of a tendency to play down to opponents at times; and they could well do that Sunday, but if they were to actually show up ready to play we should blow them out of the ****ing water.
I think the Rams have one of the top defenses and that had something to do with it. The Bucs and Arians have given in to Brady. Scotty Miller was killing it, then they signed Toms buddy AB. 1-2 since then.
I’m gonna be watching the game (even though it’s being played about 30 min from my house FUCK YOU COVID YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE MOTHER FUCKER IM SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE GAME) with my daughters boyfriend. I’ve been talking mad shit so I’m praying we can win this game or I’m gonna have to hear it until his team gets knocked out of the playoffs and we win the SB again. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
I was concerned about the Bucs based on record and stat sheets.
After watching the shitshow Monday night, I have no idea how they got to 7-3, I don't understand how they blew the Raiders out, and Brady looks like a scared old man.
They are SLOW. Like across the board. The only Bucs player on offense that has wheels is AB. The rest look like they're running in sand.
Defensive line is stout. back 7 is also SLOW.
Unless we have one of those games where we just aren't in the game mentally, we should embarass them.
This is the game that makes Tom think about retirement. Chiefs will dominate/ [Reply]
The Bucs' D is great against the run but looked really shaky against the intermediate passing game of the Rams, blitzes a ton, and has CB who are very aggressive but super susceptible to double moves.
On O, the key for me is how Chris Jones does creating pressure up the middle against Alex Cappa. Brady is the same as he has been - when he has to move his feet at all, he can't deliver the ball with much velocity or accuracy.
The Chiefs have done much, much better against QBs with more limited mobility.
I think the Raiders O matches up incredibly well against the Chiefs. I don't think there's a better pass blocking C-RG combon in the NFL than Hudson and Gabe Jackson (and even when they flip Jones to line up over the LG, Hudson is still available to help).
Hopefully Jones' groin is healthy and he can make the impact he's capable of making. If he's in Brady's lap a lot, KC is going to be just fine.
I'd also like to see them work Gay in as a pass rush option on 3rd downs somehow, even if he's standing up and they're going with a 3-man DL. His speed, power, and ferocity could make him potentially impactful there, IMO. [Reply]
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
I'd also like to see them work Gay in as a pass rush option on 3rd downs somehow, even if he's standing up and they're going with a 3-man DL. His speed, power, and ferocity could make him potentially impactful there, IMO.
I like this. If nothing else, I’ve noticed our blitz package be much less effective lately and I’ve gotta believe much of it is because it largely includes Niemann and Sorenson as the main guys coming from the second level.
Gay would be much quicker and more physical in that way. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
I like this. If nothing else, I’ve noticed our blitz package be much less effective lately and I’ve gotta believe much of it is because it largely includes Niemann and Sorenson as the main guys coming from the second level.
Gay would be much quicker and more physical in that way.
I guess I’m basically advocating for a 3-3-5. Something like:
Clark/Wharton or KPass/Jones
Gay/Hitchens/Niemann
Ward/Breeland
Matthieu (slot)/Sorenson (box)/Thornhill (deep)
You can roll into cover 2 or cover 1 or even cover 0 from that formation and do some unpredictable things. It wouldn’t be an absolute liability against the run, and if it is a definite passing down you can swap Hitchens for Fenton.
Just trying to think of a creative way to beef up the rush.
I’m kind of surprised we haven’t seen it already, with the talk of Gay playing a Buc-style role. But maybe Spagnuolo is squatting on it for a big game? [Reply]